ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by HYPERR » Fri May 03, 2013 7:31 pm

BRUMBEAR wrote:To be honest DOC I really do but as a Buell guy I have a moral imperative to scootch Harley whenever possible. :mrgreen: I have owned them in the past I will own them again XR1200 is a great bike but I will always remember Image
Many years ago, I don't really remember exactly when, but it was at the height of Harley's immense popularity; I went to my local Harley Dealer with the intention of buying a Buell. :kicking: The showroom was a beautiful brand new brick building fit for a luxury car dealership. :shock: It was my day off and I walked in wearing shorts and tee shirt. I really felt out of place there; I felt as I should be wearing a suit and a tie. :oops: The Buells were shoved in the corner like lepers. Once they saw me checking out the Buells, they had no interest in me. :boat: I felt uncomfortable with the whole place and walked out shortly thereafter. :( I'm not quite sure which of my bike I ended up buying that time, it might've been the 1998 Honda VFR800FI...but I definitely bought something as I've bought a lot of bikes. :laughing:
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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by BRUMBEAR » Sat May 04, 2013 9:57 pm

The whole Harley Deal for awhile was about a look not the machine so I just kinda laugh at them guys but there are still old timers out there and ya know em when ya see em or meet em. Evel Keneval was Harley to me not some pirate with leather so new it aint got bugs in it and boots that aint greasey :mrgreen:
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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by Johnj » Sun May 05, 2013 8:36 am

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by jstanley01 » Sun May 05, 2013 12:47 pm

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then Harley wins hands down, in North America anyway. Decade after decade, you can't fling a cat across a competitor's showroom without it bouncing off of a half a dozen or more v-twin wannabes. Which, as fine of motorcycles as they may be, there's one thing they will never be and that's a Harley. History is what it is. And if to own a part of that history, you've gotta fit yourself to the bike here and there instead of having a bike refined to fit you in every detail, well, that's a big part of the history of motorcycling too... :twocents:

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by Shriker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:01 pm

I began to love motorcycles when I was about 10 or so . Dirt bikes (Yamaha GT80 , oh yea! 1977 or so) first then street bikes. My father had a beautiful '76 CB750F Super Sport that he would give us rides on . He got a really nice AMF owned Harley ..... remember it looked great . What a complete POS. Sold it quickly. As I began riding street bikes at around 15 (73 CB350 twin, lots of fun) , as I got better I was intrigued with performance. LOVED my dads CB750F and began to ride friends bikes as I got older . EVERY Harley I rode then, 60's models through early 80's models were TERRIBLE. The Japanese bikes were were sooo far ahead in every way. Then HD got bailed out in the 80's they were soooo bad.

They turned things around and slowly made better bikes. The late 80's models with the EVO motor were a huge improvement but they still were not even close to the competition. LOW power , horrible brakes and suspensions, still not exactly reliable. Into the 90's and they picked up steam .....by the late 90's they were just about on top again . The difference was they werent really good bikes , they were merely good bikes BUT HD Marketed and Sold people a lifestyle . Their bikes improved....today they are reliable and offer decent performance for their intended category but again they generally offer style not substance.

Buell took the poor ole sportster HD motor and built a sport bike around it with character that was a blast.....HD didnt appreciate in the end unfortunately . Buell DESERVES better than HD can provide and EBR will hopefully continue to grow and prosper in the future.

As for HD , the are past their marketing peek though they still have a strong presence and still sell a coolness factor. The bottom line is , that ANYONE who is truly a MOTORCYCLE enthusiast of any sort is not really a Harley person. Sure you may enjoy them on occassion or even own one in the stable , but your RIDING lust is not totally satisfied by one. There are plenty of folks that will argue otherwise, but most if not all of these have NEVER ridden any thing else or at least nothing but a cruiser.

Just my honest opinion of course...... :)

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Unread post by Haeberle » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:38 pm

Yes, Harley's are everything they are cracked up to be.

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Unread post by sapaul » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:07 am

Shriker has hit the nail(partially) on the head. The part he missed out is that for many people the HD's have satisfied their particular need. In that respect they are successful.
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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by Gummiente » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:35 pm

Shriker wrote:The bottom line is , that ANYONE who is truly a MOTORCYCLE enthusiast of any sort is not really a Harley person. Sure you may enjoy them on occassion or even own one in the stable , but your RIDING lust is not totally satisfied by one. There are plenty of folks that will argue otherwise, but most if not all of these have NEVER ridden any thing else or at least nothing but a cruiser.
After 31 years of riding on 13 different bikes from six different manufacturers, I call bullshit on your opinion. A true motorcycle enthusiast acknowledges ALL motorcycles and considers ALL riders as friends until proved otherwise. WHAT you ride is not important, THAT you ride is. Until you understand that basic concept, you are not really a motorcycle enthusiast.

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by dr_bar » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:06 am

Nope, things haven't changed a bit... LOL
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Unread post by heel55 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:04 pm

Just look on ebay at all the used Harleys that are not selling. I've had 2 and could not sell either one for anywhere near the purchase price. What turned me off more than anything was the air cooled engine, in the south in the summer your engine can cook.

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by Hanson » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:32 am

I think it must be harder to sell a used life stile than a used motorcycle. To get good money for a used H-D, you must sell both the motorcycle and the image, just like a dealership.
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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by SamEdward » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:49 am

Bubba wrote:Stopped off at Brians Harley Davidson in Langhorne, Pa. the other day while out riding. Had a good look at all the bikes he had to offer, but once again the price outweighed the want.
I heard all the usual selling points including "maintaining their value", etc.
I think this was hashed about before, but are Harleys all they are being sold to be?
Are they better made? Are they more reliable? Do they hold their resale value?
Are they worth the extra thousands and do you get your moneys worth?

I'd like to here from you diehard Harley riders and try to leave your prejudices behind.
(Former owners are welcome too. :) )

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I would say that they are costly but they do last longer and the design of them are quite amazing too

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Re: ARE HARLEYS WHAT THEY ARE CRACKED UP TO BE?

Unread post by Iron-head » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:27 am

Again, late to this party. Down with an injury and bored!!!

All I can say is there are 14 pages here devoted to a discussion about HD's. This site, from what I can tell is not at all HD dominated. So, all this discussion from non-hd riders or HD critics is making a huge point. They are relevant to the extreme. Resale values come and go like the weather. Not so long ago we were trading 3-4 year old bikes in and upgrading to the recent model year while only adding a couple 2-3 grand at most - outdadoor. A "trade-in", not an outright sale! It was more bizarre yet in the 80's, when we were selling our "place in line" for $500. to purchase what was then a shortage of HD bikes. Popularity outranks all else.

It's a crap shoot with all vehicles and resale, but I find it odd, to say the least, that anyone should be so concerned with resale before even purchasing that vehicle, especially a non-essential, luxury or part-time vehicle.

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