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Unread post by flynrider » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:09 pm

Sevulturus wrote:Hit the starter with no gas in the carbs?
And we won't even mention the lack of spark plugs :laughing:

Shorts, all you want to do is to make the engine revolve slowly to distribute the oil to the cylinder walls. Electric (or kick start, if you have it) will do the job just fine.
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Unread post by Shorts » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:06 pm

flynrider wrote:
Sevulturus wrote:Hit the starter with no gas in the carbs?
And we won't even mention the lack of spark plugs :laughing:

Shorts, all you want to do is to make the engine revolve slowly to distribute the oil to the cylinder walls. Electric (or kick start, if you have it) will do the job just fine.

Ok, so hitting the starter is the way to turn the engine over then.

Yeah, no spark plugs installed during this in case of too much oil in cylinders. And no plugs = no spark for ignition.

And fuel petcock OFF, so no gas to be ignited if there were plugs.

Do I understand that correctly?


I was thinking like you do in vehicles to turn the engine over by hand in order to get the distributor seated and for timing.

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Unread post by BuzZz » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:16 am

There is also that little 'Run-Stop-Run' switch on the bars. You will want that in the 'Stop' or 'Off' position. :wink:
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Unread post by flynrider » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:35 pm

Shorts wrote:Ok, so hitting the starter is the way to turn the engine over then.

Yeah, no spark plugs installed during this in case of too much oil in cylinders. And no plugs = no spark for ignition.

And fuel petcock OFF, so no gas to be ignited if there were plugs.

Do I understand that correctly?
You've got it! You turned the fuel off in step 3, and in step 4 you only need to run the starter for a few revolutions to coat the cylinder walls with oil.
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Unread post by Shorts » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:40 pm

Thanks flynridr.

BuzZz wrote:There is also that little 'Run-Stop-Run' switch on the bars. You will want that in the 'Stop' or 'Off' position. :wink:
ok BuzZz, you threw me for a loop lol The switch in the OFF position when I hit the START button? Its not making sense as I don't recall that my bike turns over at all if its in the OFF position. I know I've hit the START a few times when working there on the bars and got nothing in the OFF position.

Does the engine turn and I not feel or know it??? Do I really look dumb now???

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Unread post by BuzZz » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:03 pm

I don't know about your bike, but any bike I've ever had anything to with would turn over with this switch (commonly called the 'kill switch') in off. All it deos is ground the spark to the plugs.

It is common to see someone trying to start their bike for several minutes, then realize the switch is in the wrong position. Flick it to run, and it runs.... :shock: and they ride off sheepishly.

I myself have never done this of course.... :whistling:

not that you'll ever prove, anyways....

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Unread post by Veda » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:52 pm

So, if I change my oil now and having it sitting all winter, will the oil still be good for a few thousand miles come the spring?

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Unread post by Skier » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:46 pm

BuzZz wrote:I don't know about your bike, but any bike I've ever had anything to with would turn over with this switch (commonly called the 'kill switch') in off. All it deos is ground the spark to the plugs.

It is common to see someone trying to start their bike for several minutes, then realize the switch is in the wrong position. Flick it to run, and it runs.... :shock: and they ride off sheepishly.

I myself have never done this of course.... :whistling:

not that you'll ever prove, anyways....

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For what it's worth, every bike I've owned doesn't turn the starter if the kill switch is engaged (set to off/stop). But that's only a whopping three bikes.
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Unread post by Sev » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:55 pm

Same here.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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Unread post by sharpmagna » Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:44 pm

My Magna turns over though doesn't start when the kill switch is set so I guess it depends on the bike.
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Unread post by flynrider » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:00 pm

Skier wrote: For what it's worth, every bike I've owned doesn't turn the starter if the kill switch is engaged (set to off/stop). But that's only a whopping three bikes.
It does vary. My experience was the same as yours (except with more bikes of 80s vintage). I realized that I'd never actually tried it on the Honda, so I went out to the garage, hit the kill switch and the starter turned the engine over just fine.

Apparently some kill switches are wired to the ingition and starter circuits, while others just ground the ignition.

My kickstand kill switch kills both the starter and ignition, but the bar mounted switch just kills the ignition.
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Unread post by jonnythan » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:36 pm

How important is it to disconnect and drain the carbs? I'm probably looking at 5-6 months of storage for my bike.. can't I just put Stabil in the tank and run it for a little while?
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Unread post by CycleNewb » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:22 am

This was a good read for me since I'm buying my first bike in the winter and will not be able to ride it untill spring.

Those first couple of payments are gonna suck since I won't be able to ride through Jan-March.

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Unread post by Shorts » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:22 am

Ok, a little late, but the bikes is finally put away. Last things taken care of today was drained carbs, coolant good to go, oiled the cylinders wiped down and lubed parts a light wiping of WD40.

My question on the oil in the cylinders. When we turned it over for a sec or two to coat the walls, the excess oil got squirted out the top. No problem now, just wipe the spray and reinstall the plugs.

My concern is when we go to get the bike started up in the spring. Will there still be an excess of oil? How can I make sure there isn't too much oil in there to be detrimental during startup?

(Since the Vulcan's plugs are recessed into the top of the engine, I used a small cc syringe to reach down and get oil in there)

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Unread post by BlueBomber » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:53 am

Skier wrote:
BuzZz wrote:I don't know about your bike, but any bike I've ever had anything to with would turn over with this switch (commonly called the 'kill switch') in off. All it deos is ground the spark to the plugs.

It is common to see someone trying to start their bike for several minutes, then realize the switch is in the wrong position. Flick it to run, and it runs.... :shock: and they ride off sheepishly.

I myself have never done this of course.... :whistling:

not that you'll ever prove, anyways....

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For what it's worth, every bike I've owned doesn't turn the starter if the kill switch is engaged (set to off/stop). But that's only a whopping three bikes.
My bike flashes you enough lights, and does NOTHING and tells you to BLODDY WELL "pee" OFF if you don't turn it to the run position.

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Unread post by xj550 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:39 am

Hi all, I read through that artical but have a question.

My bike doesn't have an off position on the fuel petcock, so, is it best to still add the fuel stablization to the tank, run it for 10 minutes, and drain the carbs? Keep in mind that I would have to take off the fuel line coming from the tank and plug both holes to prevent fuel from flowing back into the carbs.
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Unread post by Johnj » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:37 am

Your bike has PRIME/ON/RES so you should leave that on ON. so run the bike for ten minutes or so then shut it off. The gas should not be flowing now. There should be drain plugs on the bottom of your float bowls.
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Unread post by xj550 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:41 am

Johnj wrote:Your bike has PRIME/ON/RES so you should leave that on ON. so run the bike for ten minutes or so then shut it off. The gas should not be flowing now. There should be drain plugs on the bottom of your float bowls.
Ok thanks, do you think that i should unplug the fuel line from the tank to the carbs? Wont gravity allow some fuel to feed back into the carbs since it is all down hill? I am storing the bike over a -40C five month praire winter.
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Unread post by Johnj » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:02 am

If your petcock is in good shape there will be no gas flowing out of it unless somebody provides a vacuum to it.
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Unread post by xj550 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:21 am

Great!

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