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Unread post by freebird73 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:07 am

Been riding for just over a year now, on a bike that was admittedly too big to be a beginner on. Ive dropped it a three or four times laid it down in Feb. and have a perty scar as a reminder not to daydream or try to "slam" on the brakes... I have put very, very close to 10,000 miles on it in the last 8 months i ride it almost exclusively only because it isnt practical to carry groceries...haha

With winter fast approaching, and my reluctance to stop riding (I live in So. Cal) even in the cold, i was wondering if there are different tires I may need to get to help with safety on cold or even wet roads. Im not crazy and dont see myself riding in the rain (on purpose) and certainly not in the fog, but i just really dont want to have to store it for 3 or 4 months like i did last year dusting it off for an occasional day ride here and there.

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Unread post by Ninja Geoff » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:13 am

Cold in southern California? Surely you jest. What kind of tires are on there now? I run Michelin Pilot Road 2's on my 650R. They're great in the wet and cold (I've had it out in 20 degree weather with a little caution) though most modern tires should be fine in most any weather you'll run into in socal.
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Unread post by freebird73 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:28 am

Actually it does get chilly here in the desert.... especially at night and since i work nights i commute about 45 miles one way and the pass that i ride through has been known to be shut down once or twice a season due to snow of all things... it doesnt stick or last more than a day or two but it has been known to happen.

I currently have Continental Conti's on front and back. I upped the front size a bit and it made a remarkable difference on the lead in when i turn... I live close to a few awesome twisty roads and what a difference it made, on that same side of the coin though i am worried about how they will perform on colder, damper roads and turn.

I gotta know.. how does it feel riding when the temp is that low? how can you see through the tears or breathe through the snotcycles? lol Thats dedication!

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Unread post by Wrider » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:37 am

Eh I ride here in CO year round. I had Pilot Power 2CTs on last year and they did pretty decently down to 0F. Definitely had to be careful though. This year I've only ridden down to 40F so far but I have a 2CT in front and a Power Road 2 in back.
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Unread post by MmeMagpie » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:46 am

When it's raining hard I have noticed that the bike sticks to the road much better than a car. Damp is still dangerous, just ride mindfully.

From 60-40F:
I wear my husband's polypropylene long underwear that he got in the army. I keep a few pairs of larger pants that fit over them. Mittens make a huge difference in keeping my fingers warm, too. My favorite pair are leather with thinsulate gloves inside. Below 50F I add a lighweight, fleecy face cover thing. It has a name, but I forget what. I also like a thin, silk and lambs wool scarf around my neck to keep cold drafts from blowing down my neck.

Below 40F:
I add rain pants to cut the wind and I have a pair of snow-machining mittens for my hands.

All this goes with my leather jacket.

I have a 25 mile highway ride to work.
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Unread post by Ninja Geoff » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 am

freebird73 wrote:Actually it does get chilly here in the desert.... especially at night and since i work nights i commute about 45 miles one way and the pass that i ride through has been known to be shut down once or twice a season due to snow of all things... it doesnt stick or last more than a day or two but it has been known to happen.

I currently have Continental Conti's on front and back. I upped the front size a bit and it made a remarkable difference on the lead in when i turn... I live close to a few awesome twisty roads and what a difference it made, on that same side of the coin though i am worried about how they will perform on colder, damper roads and turn.

I gotta know.. how does it feel riding when the temp is that low? how can you see through the tears or breathe through the snotcycles? lol Thats dedication!
I blink a lot to clear the tears, lol. But really, between the full face helmet, fleece hood thingy, and skiers face mask under the helmet, it's not that bad. And I put in the jacket's liner, wear long sleeve shirt over a short sleeve shirt over long underwear up top, and heavy riding pants over sweatpants over long johns over two pairs of underwear. Not to mention the two pairs of regular socks under wool socks in my off road boots. A little chilly, but then again, I've been living with this weather since I was born. :lol:
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Unread post by BobK » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:54 pm

I ride all year round, except when there's snow on the ground and ice on the road. Last year that was about two weeks in February. My bike has heated handgrips and I wear an electric vest, so I'm comfortable down to below 0C.

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:54 pm

Best advice is to always keep warm. Remember your hands, head and legs are most exposed to the windchill and as they get cold it will affect your thinking, strength and your reflexes. If for any reason you feel too cold to ride it's best to stop, get warm and be a little late than not arrive at all.

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You need a like button on people's posts. Saves all this typing to agree with you... Well said Mr. TMW...
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dr_bar wrote:You need a like button on people's posts. Saves all this typing to agree with you... Well said Mr. TMW...
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Unread post by freebird73 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:05 am

totalmotorcycle wrote:Best advice is to always keep warm. Remember your hands, head and legs are most exposed to the windchill and as they get cold it will affect your thinking, strength and your reflexes. If for any reason you feel too cold to ride it's best to stop, get warm and be a little late than not arrive at all.

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That is really interesting, now that you mention it, i have noticed recently that i feel more uncoordinated when riding but i recently went to a slightly larger tire and figured it was just a relearning curve.(I thought it was taking a long time to adjust) I never connected it to the recent colder temps (which have gone from the low 70s at night to the low 40s to mid 50s in about a weeks time), i really thought it was the reaction of the tires to the colder road conditions.
So many people give up riding through the colder months even here, I am actually surprised how many of you ride in such freezing weather, impressive. Thanks for the great advice

MmeMagpie and ninja I will have to look into getting a face thingy... wonder if google will know what it is? lol

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Unread post by Ninja Geoff » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:21 am

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http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... eck+gaiter

I usually prefer just a neck gaiter to be honest, and I'm bald. With hair your head should be quite warm under a helmet :lol:

The neck and hands were always to first to get cold for me. Hands make it hard to work the controls, and the neck will let out a LOT of heat.
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Unread post by freebird73 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:55 am

got down to 47* two mornings ago, i was bundled up pretty good .. thermals, tights, scrubs, hoodie, scarf wrapped around my face, gloves and my favorite riding jacket... was FREEZING after the first 35 mins or so. I survived but i wanted more warmth so yesterday i bundled the same except this time i traded my jacket for my husbands. THAT did the trick, not a riding jacket though, its a columbia big thick and sooooo warm.
Two problems, first no extra protection felt kind of exposed, and second i felt like i was wearing a parachute i think i need to find a good winter riding jacket that fits....another one of those live and learn moments.
Has anyone ever tried the heated vests? or any of the heated products?

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Unread post by dr_bar » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:11 am

Just buy an electric vest or full electric liner. They're not too expensive and they do the job well.

http://cyclegiant.com/shop/?keyword=electric+vest

Cycle Giant for example has some, they are located at 20902 Bake Parkway #106 Lake Forest, CA 92630‎

In Canada, most dealers will have them, but I'm not so sure about the southern states...
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Unread post by Wrider » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:48 am

Lol I was out testing my sister's bike yesterday. It was 45 degrees out and I took it for a 25 minute ride using my summer (perforated leather) gloves, my summer (mesh) jacket, and had all of the vents on the helmet open. We need to get you some "natural insulation"!
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Unread post by MmeMagpie » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:20 am

I shiver and lean all those extra calories right off :) And I eat like a starving person in the winter. Like, throwing down whole gourmet pizzas for lunch to the amazement of my co-workers. I'm 5'3" and skinny, so imagine that for a minute :)

I found my "face thingie" at the dealership by the glove liners and neck gaiters. It's lightweight fleece and velcros at the back of my neck. I tried on a few of the neoprene kind, but found them super uncomfortable. Just found a neck gaiter in my basket of winter gear, too.

I might have to look into some heated gear. As it is, one of my favorite middle layers is a high-necked sweater-vest from Smart Wool. Not itchy, lightweight yet dense, and very warm. My workplace isn't heated, so it's also something kinda nice looking that keeps me warm :)
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Unread post by BobK » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:32 am

I have an exo2 electric vest and highly recommend it. It keeps me warm and comfortable for a three or four hour right down to below freezing.

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BobK wrote:I have an exo2 electric vest and highly recommend it. It keeps me warm and comfortable for a three or four hour right down to below freezing.
That's the vest I own, the best part I like, is the rechargable battery that lets you walk away from the bike and stay warm... :o)
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