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2011 Ducati Diavel - COOL WALL VOTE: COOL

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:08 am

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2011 Ducati Diavel

“ The Diavel is a true Ducati, born from a passion for motorcycling and designed to deliver authentic Ducati performance in every respect. ”

Hard to be seen, easy to be noticed.Even when disappearing in a split second, everyone will always be captivated. This is the magic of Diavel.

The design sets new standards in beauty, innovation and sophistication, while outstanding agility and handling are encased within a muscular body which moves with 162 hp. Its astonishing power can be managed in three different Riding Modes and with the assurance of the Ducati Safety Pack (ABS + Ducati Traction Control). Ducati has created something truly magic.



It will be called "DIAVEL" and will arrive at the new Ducati EICMA dream

Preceded by rumors, photos stolen and a lot of waiting, we received word is final. EICMA, the International Motorcycle Exhibition in Milano at Rho-November 2 to 7, will mark the first official appearance in public for the new Ducati.

Livery and specifications are defined and Ducati is ready to make his dream a reality. While waiting for the official presentation of Ducati also comes the anticipation of the name of this great news that, inspired by an expression in the dialect of Bologna, will be called "DIAVEL", or "devil."

A name that has its own particular history that stems from an incident that occurred during the development of the bike.

In fact, once set up the first prototype, with all the technical staff around the new creature "made in Borgo Panigale," a sentence in the dialect of Bologna said the original lines of the bike and winning, "ignurant comm 'to diavel!" Which, bringing the statement in Italian, it would sound "is as bad as the devil."

From that moment, "DIAVEL" became the name of "inside" the bike, to replace the internal code of the project. The decision to keep it for the production was, as you can imagine, a logical consequence.

Genesis similar to this, even if we are talking about almost 20 years ago, characterized another icon Ducati, the Monster, whose name was inspired by the now famous statement, also in the dialect of Bologna, "is just the 'n monster! "or" is just a monster. "

As for Monster, the name DIAVEL then becomes the expression of that unique, passionate, further characterized by high technology and a unique design distinguishes every Ducati motorcycle produced.

At the same time it is also easy to see what this new bike and, while bound to tradition Ducati, destined to mark an important new chapter in respect of the aesthetic and performance.

The new Ducati DIAVEL be extremely accurate in every detail, carved in every muscle, comfortable and innovative. As in any real Ducati, the performance will play a very important role. Torque, power and dynamic behavior will be a new benchmark, thanks to the Testastretta engine 11 ° - the same as the Multistrada 1200 - and weighs only 207 kg dry, which promises superbike acceleration and speed and agility to change direction .

A relaxed riding position, the suspension comfort and safety are guaranteed by the ABS, traction control and standard riding mode, will satisfy even those riders who love to drive in peace, enjoying the street, landscape and all the characteristics of This new dream Ducati.



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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: In Progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:11 am

Wow, this was a hard choice for me to pick between Awesome and Cool. It's such an amazing looking motorcycle, but for me, it just misses awesome because it's weird sitting position and how fat of a bike it is. For me, there is no mistaking it is a cool looking motorcycle as it's very unique.
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Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:56 am

I vote cool, because this is not what one would normally expect from Ducati. When a manufacturer starts toying around with radical designs and then brings them to life, it's a sign that they are still committed to the industry and are planning for the future. Bikes like these attract a new demographic and help a manufacturer stay afloat and hopefully grow even stronger.

Would I buy a Diavel? No. But I love what Ducati has done here and it makes me want to see one of them up close.
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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: In Progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:09 am

Gummiente wrote:I vote cool, because this is not what one would normally expect from Ducati. When a manufacturer starts toying around with radical designs and then brings them to life, it's a sign that they are still committed to the industry and are planning for the future.
Great points. Although I do find the Diavel does look a little "Monster/Streetfighter" like, but not enough to say it in those lines. Like yourself, I do enjoy seeing different radical designs come to life, even if they do not do that well in the market (ie. Honda DN-01).

Like yourself, would I buy a Diavel? No. But what an interesting bike idea.
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epic fail
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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: In Progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:20 am

HYPERR wrote:epic fail
Awesome! Now we have a debate!

HYPERR, why do you think it's a FAIL?

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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: In Progress

Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:13 pm

Diavel is an answer to a question nobody asked.

It is also mfugly beyond belief.

Duc engines is about the worst choice for a cruiser engine. Despite having good upper low end and phenomenal mid end thrust, Duc engines hate to be in low rpms. They literally feel like it is about to blow up at very low rpms that cruiser riders are used to. In fact, my 15,000 rpm redline CBR600RR feels much much MUCH better at <2500 rpms than the Hyper or the 900SS(944c).

They will sell OK at the very beginning as whoever wants one will rush out to buy one as they will want to be the first one to have it...afterall it is a "look at me!" kind of a bike.
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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: In Progress

Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:26 pm

HYPERR wrote:Duc engines is about the worst choice for a cruiser engine..
Fugly, yes. But then again, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder. But I do have to question your slotting it into the cruiser category. To me, the bike belongs, and was intended for, the "hooligan bike" genre. I can picture a whole squadron of Diavels out there mixing it up with the likes of the V-Max, Speed Triple, Super Duke, V-Rod and others.
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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:52 pm

HYPERR wrote:Diavel is an answer to a question nobody asked.

It is also mfugly beyond belief.

Duc engines is about the worst choice for a cruiser engine.

They will sell OK at the very beginning as whoever wants one will rush out to buy one as they will want to be the first one to have it...afterall it is a "look at me!" kind of a bike.

I would agree that it definately would appeal to a smaller crowd due to its looks... in person, I'm not a big fan either of it's tail design, it's more like a whale tail (wide and flat) than a lithe sport bike. I also don't like the name, Diavel, if they wanted to call it "Devil" then they should... somelike along the lines of the V-Strom where "Strom" is German losely for "Storm" (electrical storm or current), I just don't get it, call it Storm. HaHa.

Like Gummiente said about, I also find it very intersting you are putting this bike into the cruiser catagory. Ducati I'm sure would love to produce a cruiser (BMW tried but that didn't work out). I would figure this more for the "Muscle Bike" market myself, maybe like the Yamaha MT-01, unique in it's own regard as well.

Definately a look at me kind of bike, it's quite expensive too.

Great opinions and discussion! Love it.

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Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:56 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:... somelike along the lines of the V-Strom where "Strom" is German losely for "Storm" (electrical storm or current), I just don't get it, call it Storm.
Actually, I think they went with "Strom" because the target market was Germany and other parts of Europe where the adventure riding category is big business.
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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:59 pm

Gummiente wrote:
totalmotorcycle wrote:... somelike along the lines of the V-Strom where "Strom" is German losely for "Storm" (electrical storm or current), I just don't get it, call it Storm.
Actually, I think they went with "Strom" because the target market was Germany and other parts of Europe where the adventure riding category is big business.
Hey, ya learn something new everyday. It's amazing how much the Adventure riding category has taken off and has become a life of it's own.

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Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:04 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:Hey, ya learn something new everyday.
I'm not saying it's fact, I'm just pretty sure that's what the reasoning behind the "Strom" name was. I know I read it online somewhere, but I can't remember the location. Hell, these days I'm lucky if I remember to wear pants when I head out the front door, never mind recalling what I read a few months ago.
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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:23 pm

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HYPERR wrote:Duc engines is about the worst choice for a cruiser engine..
Fugly, yes. But then again, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder. But I do have to question your slotting it into the cruiser category. To me, the bike belongs, and was intended for, the "hooligan bike" genre. I can picture a whole squadron of Diavels out there mixing it up with the likes of the V-Max, Speed Triple, Super Duke, V-Rod and others.
Ducati considers it a power cruiser. The demographic they are targeting is far removed from their current customer base. To me it looks nothing like a Hooligan bike, too bulky and too low. Ducati already makes two bikes that could be slotted in that category, the Hypermotard and the Street Fighter. I do not consider the V-Max and the V-Rod Hooligan bikes either, they are quintessential power cruisers.
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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:26 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote: Like Gummiente said about, I also find it very intersting you are putting this bike into the cruiser catagory.

Really??? :shock:

Pretty much everyone on the internet is considering this a power cruiser. What else would you call it???
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totalmotorcycle wrote: Like Gummiente said about, I also find it very intersting you are putting this bike into the cruiser catagory.

Really??? :shock:

Pretty much everyone on the internet is considering this a power cruiser. What else would you call it???
Muscle bike, or naked bike as it's closer to those types of models than a "Traditional" cruiser IMO.

General question... Do you think this bike, the V-Rod and V-Max are creating a new "Modern Cruiser" category then and the term Muscle Bike is something that doesn't fit them?

No matter what, the Ducati Diavel sure is an interesting love it or hate it bike to discuss.

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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:31 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:

General question... Do you think this bike, the V-Rod and V-Max are creating a new "Modern Cruiser" category then and the term Muscle Bike is something that doesn't fit them?
I don't really see it as a new category at all. I think this is a power cruiser as originally coined by Honda for the V65 Magna in the 1980s. The original V-Max carried the torch and reamained the reference standard for power cruiser IMO.

I think the original V-Max hit the nail right on the head. Traditional looking yet radical in a badass way, and a great looking bike to boot. The engine must be the focal point of these bikes which the V-Max did brilliantly. Weirdness for weirdness sake does not sell in the cruiser category. Case in point the BMW cruiser, which I might add was about a 1000x better looking than the Diavel.

The Diavel is one mfugly bike. Also the engine is all wrong for that kind of bike. The 2V Duc engine is a beautiful lump of metal, the 4V Duc engine is not; in fact the motor is downright mfugly. Ducati somehow made this aethstetic monstrosity work in the naked 4V Monsters, but it does not work on the Diavel. And in this genre of bike, the look of the motor is quite important.
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Unread post by dr_bar » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:42 pm

I found the bike to be much as Gummi and Mr TMW have said, to be more along the lines of the muscle bike, with a "Standard" more upright seating position to it. Even my Valk which has been classed by many as a power cruiser, really has a more standard seating position than any cruiser that I've ever ridden. As far as the bike itself goes, I do like the look of it, though as said before, I doubt that it would ever interest me enough to make a purchase. Like sport bikes, Harleys, sport touring bikes, nice to look at, just no desire to own one. No criticism on the bike, just don't care to own one.

As to the "Modern Cruiser" category idea, I don't think those bikes fit the "Cruiser" label either. They are Standards and if anything they fit into the old muscle bike label as the V-Max has always been called, and that's not a "NEW" grouping by any means...
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dr_bar wrote: Even my Valk which has been classed by many as a power cruiser, really has a more standard seating position than any cruiser that I've ever ridden.
Power Cruiser as defined by the original, Honda V65 Manga, has a standard seating position. I don't know what a Muscle bike is...is it a Canuck term? I have a feeling what you guys are referring to muscle bikes is what we refer to as a power cruiser in the US.
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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: Discussion In Progress

Unread post by rayian » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:29 pm

I'd call it a muscle bike or maybe a Monster on steroids. I'll say somewhat cool but it doesn't really do it for me though I really like Ducati styling in general.

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Re: 2011 Ducati Diavel - VOTED: Discussion In Progress

Unread post by High_Side » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:53 am

I think it has a lot of potential but has too much cheap looking plastic on it. I would bet that it is a blast to ride with that engine though.

Some of the craziest fun that I have ever had on a motorcycle was a V-Rod Muscle. The Diavel looks like a similar concept (except not nearly as good looking), but with a lot more power, and a lot less weight. It should be great fun.

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