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2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: COOL

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:21 am

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2010 Honda Interceptor VFR1200FA

Honda's storied V-4 heritage has been re-invented in an astonishing new sport motorcycle that's unlike anything you've ever seen, heard, or ridden. Drawing from an impressive history of V-4 innovation, the all-new Honda VFR1200FA incorporates technology borrowed from such diverse sources as MotoGP, motocross, and even high-end sports cars. Its 1,237 cc engine has a narrow 76-degree cylinder angle, Unicam™ valve train, asymmetrical front/rear cylinder spacing, and other advanced features, which combine to produce a remarkably compact engine. Throttle-by-wire, a smart new shaft-drive system, Dual Clutch Transmission... it all adds up to a futuristic new bike for those who love to ride hard, ride far, and ride often.

Drawing from a longstanding legacy of innovation within Honda's V-4 lineup, the 2010 VFR1200FA embodies the new generation of V-4 technology and unsurpassed rider benefits, setting the stage for Honda's next 50 years. Honda's V-4 heritage and VFR tradition is fully realized in the VFR1200FA. It has been re-created in astonishingly innovative form through the fusion of advanced technology imported from the MotoGP world and other cutting-edge environments. Net result: a futuristic sport motorcycle created for the sheer joy of riding, custom tailored for experienced hands who ride hard, ride long, ride far and ride often.

The 2010 VFR1200FA embodies the next generation of new motorcycle technology, resulting in unsurpassed rider benefits for those in search of a sporting motorcycle that truly transcends common bounds. Honda's V-4 heritage has been re-invented in astonishingly innovative form through the fusion of advanced technology to craft a futuristic sport motorcycle created for the sheer joy of riding, custom tailored for experienced hands who ride hard, ride long, ride far and ride often.

Just a few of the incredible features and benefits found in the VFR1200FA include Honda MotoGP engine technology and architecture; a light and compact 1237cc liquid-cooled 76-degree V-4 that pumps out amazing levels of power; Throttle By Wire for next-generation throttle response; lightweight and compact Unicam® valvetrain allows for significantly smaller cylinder heads; optional Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission with manual mode and automatic mode with two D/S modes and paddle-style shifters; Honda slipper clutch in the manual-shift VFR1200FA; GP technology layer-concept aero fairing for unrivaled air management and futuristic style; next-generation shaft drive system with offset pivot point and sliding constant-velocity joint for a new level of shaft-drive performance and control.

(Note, there is no "2011" model by Honda, the 2011's are 2010 models leftover)
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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by sunshine229 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:20 am

This bike looks like it is dripping with liquid metal, it is pretty sweet but not quite hot enough for me to call awesome. Either way, it's definitely up there as one of the funkiest new designs around!
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Unread post by fireguzzi » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:52 pm

Dual clutch auto option is a no go for me. Don't won't an automatic and wouldn't want button shifters for manual mode. Keep the trans attached to my foot thank you very much.

The looks.... Well, I like the looks of it. I wish it was on another motorcycle because I like ALL the old style vfr's better but if I wipe away the tears of disappointment at the vfr's drastic change and look at it more like a new bike then I got to say I like it.

I am intrigued by the unicam deal. I have no idea if it's any better or worse but I just want to take the valve covers off and poke at it. :) I've never seen it before and think it would be cool to see a camshaft that pushes on a shim over bucket intake and also works the exhaust valve via a rocker arm. I just think thats cool. But then I've always liked rockers just for the looks of them. I like a busy looking machines with little doodads doing this and that. :laughing:
Overall I'll give it a cool rating. The traditionalist in me keeps me from voting awesome. The looks and engine size were fine the way they were. But other then that it still has a lot of vfrness to it that made me like the old ones. vfrness = linked brakes, sporty toury position/capabilities, v4, SS swing arm.
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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by Wrider » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:16 pm

I've seen it in person and I do like it! It's not awesome or awe inspiring but it is pretty cool looking/feeling/sounding.
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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by jstark47 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:13 pm

Not sure if we're talking about the VFR1200F, which has a conventional clutch lever and foot shifter, or the VFR1200FD, which has no clutch lever, and works in either full automatic mode, or clutchess manual mode via shift buttons on the left bar?

For the VFR1200F, I've read a lot of carping about how it's neither a sport-tourer nor a supersport bike, and it's heavy and uncomfortable. I've sat on one a couple of times now, and it seemed neither heavy nor uncomfortable to me. It's supposed to be blazing fast for not being a supersport - 10.1 quarter mile. That's always good for a "cool" vote from me!! :devil: (Tho' it's a bit pricey at $16K)

The FD is $1500 more than than the F. Personally, I have no use for automatic transmissions in bikes, especially one that cost more. I've read a bunch of blah about how the auto tranny shifts "more efficiently" than a human possibly can, etc, etc. When I want efficiency, I'll buy a Prius. That's not why I have motorcycles.....

The F model gets a cool vote for that new 1200cc V4. High price kep it from being an awesome. (I'll just ignore the FD model.... :roll: )
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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by ZRex » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:12 am

I have always loved VFRs and would love to own a VFR1200F so I vote cool, but when I first heard about the VFR1200 I thought it was going to be one of the most important motorcycles in years, but the bike itself really does not "blow away" the competition like some people thought it would, it's still a great bike, (I've read) a big fast GT bike with lots of power and very competitive with the other "GT" bikes, but the feature that sets it apart, the Dual clutch transmission is something I really don't care for, at least not now, maybe if I rode it I would love it as much as others have, but I like shifting for myself on a motorcycle or a car. The Dual clutch is a over a second slower in the quarter mile (according to a magazine article) not that it matters on this type of bike, but I have a lot of friends who drag race and they would wonder why I paid more for the "slower" bike (actually they would not care).

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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by Grey Thumper » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:49 pm

This is the bike I've liked least since the Cool Wall Started. I wouldn't call it uncool, but it's kinda meh for me. I really liked the 800 VFR. It was really good looking, and was a versatile size/weight. Now that it's gone, the BMW F800ST is the only midsized sport tourer left. I have to credit Honda for innovating (looks and engineering wise) for the 1200, but the looks haven't grown on me, and I'm iffy about not having a clutch (although it's a baseless opinion, not having had any experience with a clutchless bike).
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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:34 am

I voted cool as well. But it's close to the line for me as I really feel that Honda has taken a really successful formula of the VFR750/VFR800 and taken a chance with it (very un-Honda like... but then again, we are seeing Honda being "re-developed" from the DN-01 to the Fury to Honda Powercenters).

The old VFR800 look cooler to me than the VFR1200, as the VFR800 was prefectly suited to the niche it was serving... The 800 was lighter, smaller, cheaper, less complex and the 800 engine was great. Now the 1200 rolls along and looks more futuristic but also is heavier, bigger, more expensive, complex and did it really need a 50% bump up in displacement when Honda already had the ST1300?

I haven't seen too many VFR1200's on the street in London and the Honda dealers here say they are not selling very well. The VFR800 is still selling well here ("2011 model") and outselling the VFR1200. From what they say the VFR800 was Honda's biggest seller here.

Maybe time will tell. If I had an option I would sell both the 800 and the 1200 but keep the styles different.

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Unread post by fireguzzi » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:15 am

totalmotorcycle wrote:If I had an option I would sell both the 800 and the 1200 but keep the styles different.

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Unread post by High_Side » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:58 am

I haven't voted yet because I am so torn on this bike. I love VFRs but can't seem to find the love for this bloated version. I'm sure that it is a great bike, but there is something missing, or maybe, too much of everything. This test gives a little insight in to how it works, but like any bike I would have to ride it myself to decide.

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Unread post by Gummiente » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:51 am

I voted cool. Not because I'm into the whole sport-tour or sportbike genre, but because I like the technology Honda has stuffed into this one. The dual clutch and Unicam, specifically. The fly-by-wire throttle is really nothing new, though, as Harley has had it on their FL series for a couple years now. :mrgreen:
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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:16 pm

Gummiente wrote:I voted cool. Not because I'm into the whole sport-tour or sportbike genre, but because I like the technology Honda has stuffed into this one. The dual clutch and Unicam, specifically. The fly-by-wire throttle is really nothing new, though, as Harley has had it on their FL series for a couple years now. :mrgreen:
Honda has really increased it's use of advanced technology in their motorcycle models these past few years. I always said "Honda waited to use technology till it was proven", now, it's more like Kawasaki or Suzuki. Hopefully Honda's reliability doesn't suffer in the end.

I have to admit Harley-Davidson has really picked up its game since the introduction of the V-Rod.

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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: COOL

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:01 am

Another successful Cool Wall debate on the Honda VFR1200!


Put your 2 cents in now on where the next bike (2010 Zero S) will sit on the Total Motorcycle Cool Wall for this week!

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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: COOL

Unread post by rayian » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:24 pm

Having just finished reading up on the VFR I'd say it sounds like the most fun bike on the Cool Wall so far, up to and including the Harley but that's just me. I'd love to take one for a run through the Rockies. Maybe I should just go out and buy one.

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Unread post by High_Side » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:14 am

You owe it to yourself.....go for it! There is even a local group from vfr Discussion that you could ride with. Now what,s stopping you.....besides the 20gs????

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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: COOL

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:41 am

rayian wrote:Having just finished reading up on the VFR I'd say it sounds like the most fun bike on the Cool Wall so far, up to and including the Harley but that's just me. I'd love to take one for a run through the Rockies. Maybe I should just go out and buy one.
As of writing this, the VFR has been voted 100% Cool (0 votes for Awesome, uncool and fail). The Harley V-Rod Muscle is much more mixed in the voting (tied with Awesome, Cool and Uncool) but I'm sure no less fun to ride.

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Re: 2010 Honda VFR1200 - COOL WALL VOTE: In Progress

Unread post by High_Side » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:31 pm

High_Side wrote:I haven't voted yet because I am so torn on this bike. I love VFRs but can't seem to find the love for this bloated version. I'm sure that it is a great bike, but there is something missing, or maybe, too much of everything. This test gives a little insight in to how it works, but like any bike I would have to ride it myself to decide.
Well after all of this time I guess that I really should get around to voting - not that it matters for the poll, but for other reasons...... :mrgreen:

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