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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:15 am

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2011 Harley-Davidson VRSCF V-Rod Muscle

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2011 Harley-Davidson VRSCF V-Rod Muscle

The fast, powerful and aggressive V-Rod Muscle™ motorcycle is built for riders who want a little extra beef with their horsepower. Big meaty air scoops, muscle-bound mufflers, 240 mm rear tire, fastback-style tail section and massive airbox compliment the power of the 1250 cc liquid-cooled Revolution engine. Ride the V-Rod Muscle™ and experience the true definition of "power cruiser." This brawny beast is for performance enthusiasts who crave power and control, with a dash of intimidation, in a package that is all Harley-Davidson.

DIMENSIONS
Length 92.8 in. (2357 mm)
Overall Width 40.2 in. (1021 mm)
Overall Height 45.7 in. (1161 mm)
Seat Height:
• Laden2 25.6 in. (650 mm)
• Unladen 26.7 in. (678 mm)


Ground Clearance 4.8 in. (122 mm)
Rake (steering head) 34°
Fork Angle 34°
Trail 5.6 in. (142 mm)
Wheelbase 67.0 in. (1702 mm)
Tires (Michelin® Scorcher™ “11” front and rear):
• Front – Scorcher™ “11” 120/70ZR-19 60W
• Rear – Scorcher™ “11” 240/40R-18 79V
Fuel Capacity 5.0 gal. (18.9 L) (warning light at approximately 0.5 gal.)
Oil Capacity (w/filter) 5.0 qts. (4.7 L)
Coolant Capacity 2.5 qts. (2.4 L)
Weight:
• As Shipped 640 lbs. (290.0 kg)
• In Running Order 673 lbs. (305.0 kg)
• Gross Vehicle Weight Rating 1075 lbs. (488.0 kg)
• Gross Axle Weight Rating
• Front 377 lbs. (171.0 kg)
• Rear 698 lbs. (317.0 kg)




ENGINE
Engine3 Liquid-cooled, Revolution®, 60° V-Twin
Valves Overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder, solid tappet with shim-under-bucket lash adjustment
Bore x Stroke 4.134 in. x 2.835 in. (105 mm x 72 mm)
Displacement 76.28 cu. in. (1250 cc)
Compression Ratio 11.5:1
Fuel System3 Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
Air Cleaner Down draft intake
Lubrication System Wet-sump, integrated with powertrain crankcase




DRIVETRAIN
Primary Drive Gear, 117/64 ratio
Final Drive Belt, 72/28 ratio
Clutch 9-plate, wet, A&S (Assist & Slip)
Transmission 5-speed
U.S. Gear Ratios (overall):
• 1st 11.752
• 2nd 7.898
• 3rd 6.322
• 4th 5.459
• 5th 4.899



CHASSIS
Frame Steel perimeter upper frame with hydroformed main rails and bolt-on lower frame rails; MIG welded
Swingarm Polished, one-piece cast aluminum Front Forks 43 mm Inverted
Rear Shocks Preload adjustable
Wheels4: Black, 5-Spoke Cast Aluminum
• Front 19 in. x 3 in. (483 mm x 76 mm)
• Rear 18 in. x 8 in. (457 mm x 203 mm)
Brakes:
• Caliper Type 4-piston front and rear
• Rotor Type (diameter x width): Patented, one-piece floating rotor (front), uniform expansion rotor (rear)
• Front (dual) 11.81 in. x .2 in. (300 mm x 5 mm)
• Rear 11.81 in. x .28 in. (300 mm x 7 mm)
• Anti-lock Braking System (option) Available
Suspension Travel:
• Front Wheel 4 in. (102 mm)
• Rear Wheel 2.9 in. (74 mm)



PERFORMANCE
Engine Torque5 (per SAE J1349):
• North America 86 ft. lbs. @ 6500 RPM (117 Nm @ 6500 RPM)
Lean Angle (per SAE J1168):
• Right 32°
• Left 32°
Fuel Economy6
(EPA urban/highway test)
34/42 mpg (6.92/5.60 L/100 km)




ELECTRIC
Battery (per Battery Council International Rating)
Sealed, maintenance-free, 12V, 19-amp/hour, 270 cca
Charging Three-phase, 38-amp system (439W @ 13V, 2000 RPM, 489W max power @ 13V)
Starting 0.08 kW electric with direct drive starter motor engagement
Lights (as per country regulation):
• Headlamp (quartz halogen) 55-watt low beam, 65-watt high beam
• Rear Tail/Stop/Turn Signal Lights Integrated Dual Color LED
• Front Turn Signal Lights Integrated LED
• Indicator Lamps - High beam, neutral, low oil pressure, turn signals, engine diagnostics, security system7 (optional), coolant temperature, low fuel warnings




COLOR OPTIONS
Vivid Black
Brilliant Silver Pearl
Chrome Yellow
White Hot Denim




WARRANTY
Warranty8 24 months (unlimited mileage)
Service Interval First 1,000 miles (1,600 km), every 5,000 miles (8,000 km) thereafter
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by V4max » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:00 pm

I vote cool, probably the only Harley Davidson I would consider. HP #s available?

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Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:46 pm

I've always liked the V-Rod, right from the day it was first announced. I think THIS is the bike Harley should be concentrating on, but as long as the air cooled twins continue to sell the liquid cooled bikes will be limited to this model. Having said that, I voted "cool" because of the V-Rod concept in general, not the Muscle in particular. Truth be known, I'm not a fan of the whole muscle bike scene but I can appreciate them for what they are - pure, brute force straight line acceleration machines just like their 4-wheeled counterparts that they borrowed the genre name from. The fact that it has a Harley badge on the tank is a bonus for me, because it renders a lot of the HD basher troll's usual comments about outdated technology and poor handling invalid.
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by blues2cruise » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:57 pm

I would have voted cool if not for the rad.......I have always thought V-Rods were cool....but not that one.
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by High_Side » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:01 am

I voted awesome. It is one of the most silly fun bikes that I have ever ridden. The guy I switched bikes with had just passed an RSV Aprilia on the Muscle while chasing my SuperDuke down a twisty road. With a lighter guy like him on it 20 mph throttle bursts light up the wide back tire. Even though I have ridden much more powerful bikes the engine in this thing is one of the sweetest in motorcycling. In black, on the road, there isn't much that actually looks as good either. I am not a cruiser guy but this one I could see myself owning. If you ever get the chance to try one, give it a go.

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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:37 am

Ah, this is a hard one for me to vote on as I really like the idea of the V-Rod line and love some of the V-Rod models... The Harley-Davidson V-Rod Muscle looks like a cool bike to me, but there are some negatives for me to vote it Cool... I voted Uncool.

As mentioned above, the V-Rod idea is what Harley-Davidson should be focused on for the future, the V-Rod engine and engineering are top notch. The design flows from front to rear and the bike looks like a Harley-Davidson from the future rather than the far past. Unfortunately Harley-Davidson has done little since the V-Rod introduction in 2002/3 (the engine has been increased a little in size) but the V-Rod is a still not fully accepted as a Harley, it doesn't sound like a Harley it doesn't look like a Harley, doesn't "feel/vibrate" like a Harley and the engine is different than you would find on a tranditional Harley. That doesn't mean it's not a good bike IMO, it means it hasn't found a comfortable niche. H-D has introduced I believe 5 different V-Rod models and today only 2 are left... (If H-D is reading this can you please bring back the Street Rod and normal V-Rod)

Back to the Muscle... For me, it's uncool for a little of the reasons above (V-Rod vs traditional Harley-Davidson) but mostly because it is a very uncomfortable bike to ride for taller riders, the reach is too far forward and so are the pegs and controls, you feel sitting on it like you are on a medieval rack. There is also no room to move back on with the seat being a "back block" and I doubt you'd get a passenger to sit on it. Also as mentioned above the rad at the front has never looked right on the bike. It is more comfortable than the Harley-Davidson VRSCDX Night Rod Special (that is even worse for comfort). The H-D rep's I've talked to say you can ride the Muscle longer than the Night Rod.

Would I buy a V-Rod? Sure would, but there would have to be some changes to it... thankfully that's where H-D excells, accessories.

In the end, it's a great looking bike, is what modern Harley-Davidson engineering should be and goes like stink, but I think some of the magic in owning a Harley-Davidson is the sound and feel of it, and the V-Rod doesn't possess that. Might as well buy a Suzuki M109.
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by Gummiente » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:22 am

totalmotorcycle wrote:Unfortunately Harley-Davidson has done little since the V-Rod introduction in 2002/3 (the engine has been increased a little in size) but the V-Rod is a still not fully accepted as a Harley, it doesn't sound like a Harley it doesn't look like a Harley, doesn't "feel/vibrate" like a Harley and the engine is different than you would find on a tranditional Harley.
Ok, colour me confused here... you're one of the many who have complained about HD's "lack" of technology, outdated styling, inferior engine design and vibration, yet now you're complaining that the V-Rod is lacking because it doesn't possess those qualities? The V-Rod is Harley's attempt to attract a new generation of riders while preparing the traditional customer base for the inevitable changes that are long overdue for the iconic air-cooled 45 degree twin. While the V-Rod has (and continues to) sold like hotcakes in Europe it is still slow to gain acceptance here in North America, which is hardly the fault of the company. Several of the V-Rod models were dropped because, as I understand it, they were poor sellers. HD is not known for keeping unpopular models on the roster (Road Glide excepted) so they have gone to the muscle bike genre to capture that growing market. Riding positon and radiator aside, I still think the whole V-Rod concept is a major step in the right direction for Harley. But as long as there is still a large customer base for their traditional model lineup, they are going to milk that one for all it's worth while continuing to work on the liquid cooled product. And they have been working on it, but in true Harley fashion only the dedicated enthusiast can pick out the changes and improvements made since the first model year.

Radical changes are coming in the motorcycling industry, due in no small part to ever tightening EPA regs, and I think HD is heading in the right direction - just not fast enough, IMO.
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Unread post by Gummiente » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:27 am

blues2cruise wrote:I would have voted cool if not for the rad.......
Ugly though it is, that rad is actually a marvel of design engineering. I watched a program on the Discovery Channel about the entire V-Rod project and they went into great detail about how the rad was designed to allow maximum flow in a restricted space; those huge scoops on the side actually direct the airflow into a vortex pattern that apparently gives it the cooling capability of a normal rad twice its size. But, yes, it is still ugly. :)
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:03 am

Gummiente wrote:
totalmotorcycle wrote:Unfortunately Harley-Davidson has done little since the V-Rod introduction in 2002/3 (the engine has been increased a little in size) but the V-Rod is a still not fully accepted as a Harley, it doesn't sound like a Harley it doesn't look like a Harley, doesn't "feel/vibrate" like a Harley and the engine is different than you would find on a tranditional Harley.
Ok, colour me confused here... you're one of the many who have complained about HD's "lack" of technology, outdated styling, inferior engine design and vibration, yet now you're complaining that the V-Rod is lacking because it doesn't possess those qualities? The V-Rod is Harley's attempt to attract a new generation of riders while preparing the traditional customer base for the inevitable changes that are long overdue for the iconic air-cooled 45 degree twin. While the V-Rod has (and continues to) sold like hotcakes in Europe it is still slow to gain acceptance here in North America, which is hardly the fault of the company. Several of the V-Rod models were dropped because, as I understand it, they were poor sellers. Radical changes are coming in the motorcycling industry, due in no small part to ever tightening EPA regs, and I think HD is heading in the right direction - just not fast enough, IMO.
I have applauded Harley-Davidson's attempt to attract new riders with the V-Rod, when it came out in 2002/3 I was right on H-D's bandwagon saying "This is the bike H-D needs to build and build big on". In fact in July I told Harley-Davidson Canada this very fact and stressed to them the need to do more to attact a new generation of riders to the H-D brand.

I was one of the many who have complained about HD's "lack" of technology pre-2000 models. It wasn't untill 2000 that H-D really started to address (IMO) the issues with vibration in the sportster line. After 2000 they also introduced fuel injection in the entire line up (the first manufacturer to do so) and I appaluded them for that big time... I do know carbs played a big role in H-D heritage but FI was the future no-one could avoid anyways. If you look at today's H-D's they have come a long way in 11 years. Victory (IMO) has more technology than H-D's but they lack the H-D forumla. I guess is that "inferiorness" that makes H-D's formula so special. Without it, it's not a H-D. That makes me pause because I think "Hmmm, that's puts Harley-Davidson into a bind because you can't innovate and keep the formula".

The V-Rod I really like, but the formula is missing something and I think it is the little bit of "bad boy harshness" that is present on the other H-D's. Maybe that is why it really hasn't found it's deserved place yet.

On the other note "While the V-Rod has (and continues to) sold like hotcakes in Europe" I haven't seen even 1 Harley-Davidson V-Rod yet in over 2 years here in England and haven't seen one in Germany, France, Italy or CZ. I have seen H-D's but not very often, the roads here are way to "small and curvy" for them.
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V4max wrote:I vote cool, probably the only Harley Davidson I would consider. HP #s available?
Here you go:
The engine has the power to produce around 125 hp at 8250 rpm and up to 85 ft-lbs. of touque at 7000 rpm.
It's quite the V-Twin power plant for it's cc size.
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Unread post by V4max » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:43 pm

Here you go:
The engine has the power to produce around 125 hp at 8250 rpm and up to 85 ft-lbs. of touque at 7000 rpm.
It's quite the V-Twin power plant for it's cc size.[/quote]


I would be surprised to see 125 hp on a Dyno. My V-Max is claimed to have 145 hp but is probably closer to 120. Still good #'s for HD, be interesting to put it up against other "muscle" bikes such as 1st or 2nd generation V max, or the new Ducati Diaval. I have raced (standing start and roll on), a friends older v-rod (not sure what year) on more than one occasion and it has yet to beat me.

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totalmotorcycle wrote:On the other note "While the V-Rod has (and continues to) sold like hotcakes in Europe" I haven't seen even 1 Harley-Davidson V-Rod yet in over 2 years here in England and haven't seen one in Germany, France, Italy or CZ. I have seen H-D's but not very often, the roads here are way to "small and curvy" for them.
My younger brother lives in Germany, he says there are V-Rods all over the roads there. I've spoken to more than a few Harley dealers over the last few years and when the subject turns to the V-Rod, they all invariably say they wish they had the sales figures for them that Europe does.
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Gummiente wrote:
totalmotorcycle wrote:On the other note "While the V-Rod has (and continues to) sold like hotcakes in Europe" I haven't seen even 1 Harley-Davidson V-Rod yet in over 2 years here in England and haven't seen one in Germany, France, Italy or CZ. I have seen H-D's but not very often, the roads here are way to "small and curvy" for them.
My younger brother lives in Germany, he says there are V-Rods all over the roads there. I've spoken to more than a few Harley dealers over the last few years and when the subject turns to the V-Rod, they all invariably say they wish they had the sales figures for them that Europe does.
Wow I didn't realise they were such big sellers over here. Funny enough, the Europeans love American cars like we love European cars. So a Mustang gets almost as much attention as a Ferrari. So if you rode a H-D here, that would be something even more special.

For Germany, we were there twice but both times in the winter. Perhaps that is why we didn't see any there! Doh.

In England we have never seen one, which I do agree is a shame. We have seen a hand few of Harley's over the years here but not very often (I did see a Sportster this week). Mostly japanese and european naked bikes here of all sizes, they just work better on the narrow roads and for lane splitting/filtering. Also there is a road tax for the pollution level of your bike/car, my bike is £70 a year for a 750cc Kawi. I don't know what a H-D would be (I could look it up if you are interested... ok I did look it up, it's anything over 600cc is £70 a year).

Any other Europeans reading this, please chime in.
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by blues2cruise » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:12 pm

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blues2cruise wrote:I would have voted cool if not for the rad.......
Ugly though it is, that rad is actually a marvel of design engineering. I watched a program on the Discovery Channel about the entire V-Rod project and they went into great detail about how the rad was designed to allow maximum flow in a restricted space; those huge scoops on the side actually direct the airflow into a vortex pattern that apparently gives it the cooling capability of a normal rad twice its size. But, yes, it is still ugly. :)
If it were black on black, it would not be so noticeable.
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Unread post by rayian » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:41 pm

If I was interested in muscle I'd be more interested in the Ducati Diavel. Yeah the Harley has lots of power, lots of torque, and lots of weight. 640 pounds dry. That's heavy. The Ducati is less than 500 lbs. That means a lot to me.

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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by High_Side » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:41 pm

This is definitely one bike that you cannot judge by the spec sheet, and you really must ride it to understand how great of an overall package that it is. H.p., torque and weight are just a minor guideline to how an overall bike feels.....and this one feels phenomenal. It's a cruiser after all so the weight isn't a huge deal. As for the other V-Twin "power cruisers" such as the M-109, the Muscle will smoke them all. It has the torque of a big twin but will rev like my old VTR1000, but feeling smoother and even more torquey. It will also corner amazingly well for what it is.

I still think that Harley couldn't have done much better, and it's too bad that they didn't develop the range of V-Rods to include a tourer. I hope that they keep them around for a good long while.

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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:37 am

High_Side wrote: I still think that Harley couldn't have done much better, and it's too bad that they didn't develop the range of V-Rods to include a tourer. I hope that they keep them around for a good long while.
Great suggestion, I as well would like to see Harley-Davidson so more with the range of V-Rods. My fav was the Street Rod as it was a "standard" riding position and was a pretty much basic V-Rod. But a V-Rod tourer, or even a sport version would be great to see and why not use the engine in a Sportster or XR"1200" model?

There are so many possibilities... I am still hoping H-D will use some of that wonderful Buell R&D too rather than shelving it.
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:57 pm

General Question...

What do you think of the white paint job? I've noticed the past 2 years white has been quite the popular "color" now being offered, before you hardly saw a pure solid white bike.

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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by High_Side » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:42 pm

I think that it looks much better in BLACK......for some reason...... :righton:
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Re: 2011 H-D V-Rod Muscle- COOL WALL VOTE: In progress

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:09 pm

High_Side wrote:I think that it looks much better in BLACK......for some reason...... :righton:
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Yup, I agree.

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