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2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Voted Fail

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:18 am

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2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser

The Zero XU blends industry leading technology, performance and practicality to deliver the ultimate urban-crosser. A low seat height, no-shift operation and removable power pack allow riders of all kinds to enjoy pure exhilaration without all the hassles and maintenance that other motorcycles require.

The Zero XU is an innovative, lightweight, electric motorcycle that blends industry-leading technology, performance and practicality to deliver the ultimate urban commuter and allaround fun motorcycle. A low seat height, zero-shift operation and removable modular power pack technology allow riders of all kinds to navigate the city with a new kind of freedom.

Ride the way you want. Roll on the throttle, relax and leisurely wind your way from one destination to the next. Or… take full advantage of instant and seamless acceleration at any RPM. Designed for utility and pure enjoyment, the Zero XU transforms the city into a motorcycle amusement park.


Built around Zero’s lightweight aircraft-grade aluminum frame, the Zero XU is styled to be minimalistic, strong, eye-catching and comfortable. As with Zero’s entire model line, the 2013 Zero XU costs only cents to recharge and, with its maintenance-free powertrain, is one of the most economical motorcycles to own and operate.


2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser - North American Specifications/Technical Details
USA MSRP Price: $7,995 MSRP for the ZF2.8 and $10,490 MSRP for the ZF5.7 USD
Canadian MSRP Price: $7,995 MSRP for the ZF2.8 and $10,490 MSRP for the ZF5.7 CDN


Z2.8
City/Highway/Combined range* 38/17/24 miles (61/27/39 km)
Max torque 42 ft-lb (57 Nm)
Max power 27 hp (20 kW) @ 4000 RPM
Top speed* 77 mph (124 km/h)
Power pack maximum capacity 2.8 kWh (expandable)
Estimated power pack life to 80% capacity (city) 95,000 miles (153,000 km)
Typical cost to recharge $0.30
Equivalent fuel economy (city) 512 MPGe (0.46 L/100 km)
Charge time, empty to 95% 3.7 hours
CHAdeMO charge time to 95% (acc.) 1 hour
Weight 218 lb (99 kg)
Seat height 31.1 inches (790 mm)
MSRP** $7,995.00





Z5.7
City/Highway/Combined range* 76/35/48 miles (122/56/77 km)
Max torque 42 ft-lb (57 Nm)
Max power 28 hp (21 kW) @ 4000 RPM
Top speed* 77 mph (124 km/h)
Power pack maximum capacity 5.7 kWh
Estimated power pack life to 80% capacity (city) 190,000 miles (306,000 km)
Typical cost to recharge $0.60
Equivalent fuel economy (city) 512 MPGe (0.46 L/100 km)
Charge time, empty to 95% 7.4 hours
CHAdeMO charge time to 95% (acc.) 1 hour
Weight 260 lb (118 kg)
Seat height 31.1 inches (790 mm)
MSRP** $10,490.00



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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:20 am

Brand new for 2013... could this be the electric motorcycle we have all been waiting for?? (ie, "cheap" and has range to commute on? Or is it a fail?)

You decide!

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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by dr_bar » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:32 pm

Gonna have to get a super loud stereo to play the sounds of a custom exhaust, remember, loud pipes save... LOL
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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:48 pm

dr_bar wrote:Gonna have to get a super loud stereo to play the sounds of a custom exhaust, remember, loud pipes save... LOL
You are right, for a city bike you really don't want a completely quiet bike, other drivers just won't hear ANYTHING beside them and that would increase the chances of a side swipe for sure.

In fact, just two days ago I almost got side swiped by a Ford Bronco, thankfully I had time to react as I saw him come right into my lane, braked and honked. Unusually rare for Houston, but the driver said "sorry" in his mirror and when we pulled up to a red light, opened his door and apologised. +1

But yes, no sound motorcycle? Hmmm...

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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by snakedoctEr726 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:13 pm

I voted fail because it's an ugly, slow bike with no range. Why anybody would spend $8000 on this is beyond me.
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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by madjak30 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:43 pm

At first glance, it reminded me of a Buell Blast...with the minimal tail and standard riding position...but it could only be used as a commuter, not even for evening rides. Great economy and good shelf life of battery, but the range is aweful!!

Voted: FAIL

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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by pchast » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:38 pm

I want one. I can do all my local riding without concern about fuel and carbs.
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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by BobK » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:29 am

I'm intrigued by these things. I might just have to buy one.

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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by ceemes » Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:03 am

I gave it a cool vote, but only because we don't have a "meh" option between cool and uncool.

For what it is, its not too bad. Looks wise there is nothing really that stands out on this bike, its pretty generic looking. Price is fairish and as an urban commuter, its range is good. Its not really meant to be a touring bike, but something to get you from point a to point b in the urban environment cheaply and greenly. Did I say greenly? Well sort of greenly anyways. Electric powered vehicles are no doubt the future of transportation be it cage or bike. Mainly because oil is too damned precious to continue to be wasted in the inefficient internal combustion engines we currently run, especially in the urban sprawl crawl we put ourselves through daily.

However its green Achilles Heel is its batteries. There are three major non-green issues with battery powered vehicles.

1) They have to be charged up by being plugged into the local grid system and in the vast majority of the world that energy is created by electrical generating plants that burn some form of fossil fuels, be it oil based or coal. And the more electrical vehicles plugging into that system to be recharged means greater demand which will lead to an increase in production, demanding more fuel, thus generating more pollution. Basically instead of burning fuel themselves, they have the power companies do it for them.

2) The batteries that make modern electrical vehicles viable are made of "rare earths" and those must be mined, processed and manufactured into batteries. If I recall correctly, there are only two nations with reserves of these rare earths that make mining viable, Canada and China. These rare earths are then shipped to places like India, Thailand and other 3rd world areas to be processed and once processed, shipped to I believe the Netherlands to be made into batteries and then shipped again to manufacturers of the equipment that will use them. Not very green at all.

3) Once these batteries have reached the end of their useful life, they have to be disposed of and replace. Disposal of these batteries is a major environmental issue in that they are not all that recyclable and are toxic. Also, the current replacement cost of them is somewhat prohibitive. To replace the battery pack of the ever popular and hell spawned Toyota Prius costs damn near as much as 1/4 of the buying price of that horrid little car.

Electrical powered vehicles are the way of the future however not battery powered vehicles. The future more then likely is fuel cell or hydrogen technology to power our vehicles.

As for this bike, it is good at what it is, an urban commuter, with decent range for the urban environment, low operating costs, fast(ish) recharging times, and fairly generic bike looks. Consider it not so much as the Model T of the electric biking world, but say something in between the Model T and Daimler/Benz first gas powered buggy.
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Re: This Week - 2013 Zero XU Urban Crosser: Vote & Discuss

Unread post by BobK » Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:30 am

I don't know this for a fact, it's only what I read in an article about the Zero motorcycle, but they claim that their batteries are very non-toxic:

http://faircompanies.com/videos/view/ze ... ric-bikes/

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Unread post by ceemes » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:32 pm

BobK wrote:I don't know this for a fact, it's only what I read in an article about the Zero motorcycle, but they claim that their batteries are very non-toxic:

http://faircompanies.com/videos/view/ze ... ric-bikes/
A claim by the company which if true would be good news, however no they provide no sceintific proof or studies to back it up. Lithium Ion batteries while a good storage media for electrical energy, do pose a huge environmental risk if disposed off incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Until proof is offered by an independent 3rd party accredited source, their claim hold about as much water as the tobacco companies claiming cigarette's are not addictive nor cause cancer.
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Unread post by blues2cruise » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:46 pm

For this kind of money..If I wanted just a commuter bike, Id get a scooter....
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Unread post by jstark47 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:15 pm

Fail. For $10.4K I get a commuter bike that I can't commute on? Round trip to work, shortest route, is 62 miles. Average speed on I-295 especially in the a.m. is 80 mph. I'd have to charge it at work, and...... guess what? No charging stations in the parking lot at my job.

For almost $3K less, I can get a Triumph Bonneville which can be a city bike AND a freeway commuter. And if I just needed a city bike, like Blues said, get a scooter. A Honda PCX150 would do nicely, for less than $3500.
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Unread post by High_Side » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:15 pm

I see this age of electric bikes as a bridge to the real deal when battery technology reaches a viable level. The people who buy these machines will likely understand that but have the disposable income to go along for the ride. Battery technology is improving all of the time and the real test will be if we arrive at the viable solution before everyone gives up on the concept.

I'll give it a "cool" for trying to be different and potentially improving the breed.

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Unread post by HYPERR » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:46 am

Epic fail, it's mfugly, has no range, and is a band aid cure and draws attention away from what is the biggests culprit of all, diesels.

Diesels are the filthiest and the most disgusting engines made today. And of course for obvious political reasons are not regulated by real emission standards so they pollute the planet like crazy with their disgusting fumes and horrific odor. Why not have strict emission standard for diesels like they have for gasoline engines? Because US Congress, et al will never create a law that would for obvious reasons. Even in places they test diesels for emissins, they only test for HC and CO, which is a joke because they do not test for NO which is why diesels continue to get away with murder.

Create a emission standard for diesels that are as strict as for gasoline engines and the planet and the air quality will improve drastically. I will gladly pay my share of increased cost for goods resulting from companies like Caterpillar now having to build engines that meet these requirements instead of building engines that are antique relics from about 50 years ago.

As for passenger cars that burn diesel, they should be all banned as there is no reason for passenger cars to be burning diesels.
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Unread post by snakedoctEr726 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:34 pm

HYPERR wrote: Diesels are the filthiest and the most disgusting engines made today. And of course for obvious political reasons are not regulated by real emission standards so they pollute the planet like crazy with their disgusting fumes and horrific odor. Why not have strict emission standard for diesels like they have for gasoline engines? Because US Congress, et al will never create a law that would for obvious reasons. Even in places they test diesels for emissins, they only test for HC and CO, which is a joke because they do not test for NO which is why diesels continue to get away with murder.

Create a emission standard for diesels that are as strict as for gasoline engines and the planet and the air quality will improve drastically. I will gladly pay my share of increased cost for goods resulting from companies like Caterpillar now having to build engines that meet these requirements instead of building engines that are antique relics from about 50 years ago.

As for passenger cars that burn diesel, they should be all banned as there is no reason for passenger cars to be burning diesels.
Get off your soapbox and provide some reliable evidence to support that. Or just keep making stuff up. Whatever floats your boat.

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Unread post by HYPERR » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:19 pm

snakedoctEr726 wrote:
HYPERR wrote: Diesels are the filthiest and the most disgusting engines made today. And of course for obvious political reasons are not regulated by real emission standards so they pollute the planet like crazy with their disgusting fumes and horrific odor. Why not have strict emission standard for diesels like they have for gasoline engines? Because US Congress, et al will never create a law that would for obvious reasons. Even in places they test diesels for emissins, they only test for HC and CO, which is a joke because they do not test for NO which is why diesels continue to get away with murder.

Create a emission standard for diesels that are as strict as for gasoline engines and the planet and the air quality will improve drastically. I will gladly pay my share of increased cost for goods resulting from companies like Caterpillar now having to build engines that meet these requirements instead of building engines that are antique relics from about 50 years ago.

As for passenger cars that burn diesel, they should be all banned as there is no reason for passenger cars to be burning diesels.
Get off your soapbox and provide some reliable evidence to support that. Or just keep making stuff up. Whatever floats your boat.
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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:13 pm

Wow...

Who'uld've thought there'd be so much to talk about for one little puddle jumper of a bike?

I think it's great, and I'll tell you why. I see this not as a chance for an evolution to electric transportation (which it is, to be sure, but not the greatest point), but as a chance for an evolution to greater ridership. Automatic shift, relatively inexpensive, and did you catch the part where you can do 38 city miles for $.30 cents? I realize those are estimates, but gas would have to $0.60 a gallon for you get that kind of fuel economy out of even the lightest plastic fantastic. So someone who's looking to get into riding for the economics of it simply can't help but gravitate towards this thing. It's damn near a bicycle, only without all that pesky pedaling. Sure, it's got ZERO (hah hah!) use outisde of an urban environment, but give 'em time and they'll start pushing the range to respectable numbers.

And in the interim, we'll get a few more converts to our sport. I'm voting awesome for what this bike could do for all of us, not for any one of us.

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Unread post by DavyP » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:37 pm

Hmmm....7hrs of charging for 1 hr of riding. Now there's economy!!
FAIL!
An electric scooter will work for city commuting for a lot cheaper.

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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:50 pm

Yeah...

But then you'd be a Marvin.

And I read 4 hours of charging -- well, 3.something.

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