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2014 Harley-Davidson XL1200T SuperLow - Coolness Factor= 46%

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:39 pm

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NEW HARLEY-DAVIDSON® SUPERLOW® 1200T HUNGRY FOR THE HORIZON...

Nimble Sportster Tour-Ready with Bags, Windshield and Adjustable Suspension

Smooth travel riding suspension, comfortable cruising position and easy handling for endless miles.

The new Harley-Davidson® SuperLow® 1200T motorcycle opens the door to freedom. A Sportster® model equipped with essential touring features, the SuperLow 1200T model is created specifically to get more riders on the long-haul route to adventure aboard a with the signature style, comfort and prestige of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle. The SuperLow 1200T is available now as a mid-year 2014 model introduction.

In creating the SuperLow 1200T, Harley-Davidson has for the first time combined its nimble SuperLow chassis with the performance of an Evolution® 1200 V-Twin engine. A new suspension and tire package is ready to go the distance with luggage and a passenger on board. Its ergonomics are calibrated to offer riders from 5’ 1” to 5’ 7” in height an easy reach to the ground, handlebar and foot controls. The SuperLow 1200T weighs 118 pounds less than the lightest Harley-Davidson Big Twin touring motorcycle.

“The SuperLow 1200T is a new motorcycle driven by the voice of our customers, and by customer action,” said Jennifer Gersch, Harley-Davidson Product Planning Manager. “Many riders seeking an entry point to the touring experience have been putting together a bike like this on their own. We’ve added ergonomic adjustments and a selection of touring accessories to a motorcycle platform that is already popular with our customers. They can tour on a great-looking motorcycle that offers performance and inspires confidence, while experiencing those life-defining moments that can only be encountered on the open road.”



2014 Harley-Davidson XL1200T SuperLow - http://www.TotalMotorcycle.com Specifications/Technical Details
US MSRP Price: Vivid Black $8,249; Color Option $8,564; Two-Tone Option $8,774 USD.
Canada MSRP Price: Vivid Black $10,189; Color Option $10,569; Two-Tone Option $10,829 CDN

DIMENSIONS
Length87.2 in.
Seat Height, Laden 25.5 in.
Seat Height, Unladen 27.4 in.
Ground Clearance3.9 in.
Rake (steering head) (deg)31.1
Trail5.7 in.
Wheelbase59.1 in.
Tires, Front Specification120/70 ZR-18 59W
Tires, Rear Specification150/60 ZR-17 66W
Fuel Capacity4.5 gal.
Oil Capacity (w/filter)2.8 qt.
Weight, As Shipped540 lb.
Weight, In Running Order562 lb.
ENGINE
Engine 1Air-cooled, Evolution®
Bore3 in.
Stroke3.811 in.
Displacement53.9 cu in
Compression Ratio9:01
Fuel System 3Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
DRIVETRAIN (http://www.TotalMotorcycle.com)
Primary DriveChain, 34/57 ratio
Gear Ratios (overall) 1st10.41
Gear Ratios (overall) 2nd7.436
Gear Ratios (overall) 3rd5.531
Gear Ratios (overall) 4th4.584
Gear Ratios (overall) 5th3.931
CHASSIS
ExhaustChrome, staggered, shorty exhaust with dual mufflers
Wheels, Front Type 9Black, Split 5-Spoke with Machined Rim
Wheels, Rear TypeBlack, Split 5-Spoke with Machined Rim
Brakes, Caliper TypeDual-piston front, Dual-piston rear
http://www.TotalMotorcycle.com PERFORMANCE
Engine Torque Testing MethodJ1349
Engine Torque 53.8 ft-lb
Engine Torque (rpm)3,750
Lean Angle, Right (deg.)24.7
Lean Angle, Left (deg.)24.4
Fuel Economy: Combined City/Hwy 51 mpg

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:51 pm

Just released today. New for 2014.

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Unread post by BRUMBEAR » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:55 pm

With the 2 new water cooled machines coming in a few K less, This antiquated heavy sluggish and poor braking sportster trying for what I can only guess is entry class or a woman rider it's just not up to snuff. I like the power plant, but I think it's time to send it to the Chinese for a knockoff attempt.
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Unread post by blues2cruise » Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:14 pm

I wouldn't ride it. It still has a skinny front tire and is designed for short people.
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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:13 pm

blues2cruise wrote: is designed for short people.
Not with a seat height of over 700 inches! :laughing:
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Re: This Week: 2014 Harley-Davidson XL1200T SuperLo - Vote T

Unread post by jstark47 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:28 pm

OK, they put a 1200 engine in a SuperLo, hung bags and a windshield on it, and it's a "New Motorcycle." Yes. Of course it is...... :frusty:


Not.


Uncool for marketing fail. I wanna have Jennifer Gersch's (Harley-Davidson Product Planning Manager) job. I get paid a year's salary, and this is all I have to come up with?? Sweet gig! :lol:
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Unread post by ceemes » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:39 pm

More of the same 'ole, same 'ole.....yet another variation of the same tired theme....wake me when they come out with something new and interesting.
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Unread post by blues2cruise » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:36 am

HYPERR wrote:
blues2cruise wrote: is designed for short people.
Not with a seat height of over 700 inches! :laughing:
:laughing: I missed that. I was reading the text not the specs.
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Unread post by faded sun » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:18 pm

You can't beat the mileage on this one though - 551 mpg on a 1200! That takes you almost 2500 miles on a full tank of gas. Must be something to do with sitting 60 feet in the air as you ride.

Whoever wrote the specs on this bike was high or drunk or a Harley marketing department burnout. And whoever designed it is trying to sell a "safe" motorcycle, whatever that is, to people who don't ride.

“Many riders seeking an entry point to the touring experience have been putting together a bike like this on their own," per Ms. Gersch. I beg to differ. How many bikes that look like this that are custom made have you ever seen?

Exactly.

If it actually looked good I wouldn't really care about the marketing mumbo-jumbo but when the product is such a disaster it really sounds over the top. Can you tell I hate it? And I ride a cruiser!
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Unread post by HYPERR » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:38 pm

faded sun wrote:You can't beat the mileage on this one though - 551 mpg on a 1200! That takes you almost 2500 miles on a full tank of gas. Must be something to do with sitting 60 feet in the air as you ride.
All while producing 253.8 ft/lbs of torque! :kicking:
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Unread post by montanalifter » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:57 pm

No its not water cooled have traction control or launch control but I still like it. Simple bike, price point is not too bad sub 9k. Bags to put your stuff for work or whatever in and the windshield will work for colder rides. Could give it an uncool for being the same old Harley but I love motorcycles so its cool.

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:47 am

blues2cruise wrote:
HYPERR wrote:
blues2cruise wrote: is designed for short people.
Not with a seat height of over 700 inches! :laughing:
:laughing: I missed that. I was reading the text not the specs.
Silly people... that's the legal stuff at the bottom of the specs that all begin with a footnote number (I didn't include it here as it looks messy, but here's the link: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyc ... perLow.htm )

1Recommended 91 octane or higher fuel (R+M)/2.
2Values shown are nominal. Performance may vary by country and region.
3Standard and optional fuel systems may vary by country.
4See motorcycle owner's manual for complete details.
5Estimated from fuel economy tests on a sample motorcycle from the corresponding family conducted by Harley-Davidson under ideal laboratory conditions. Not all motorcycle models undergo fuel economy testing. Fuel economy and mileage may vary among motorcycle models within a family. Your mileage may vary depending on your personal riding habits, weather conditions, trip length, vehicle condition and vehicle configuration and other conditions. Break-in mileage may vary.
6Prices listed are the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices. Options such as color are available at additional cost. Prices exclude dealer setup, taxes, title and licensing and are subject to change. Dealer prices may vary.
7Measurement reflects 180 lb. (81.7 kg) operator weight.
8North America security system includes immobilizer; outside North America the security system includes immobilizer and siren.
9Standard and optional wheels may vary by country and region.
:laughing:

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Seat Height, Laden 725.5 in.
Seat Height, Unladen 727.4 in.


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Re: This Week: 2014 Harley-Davidson XL1200T SuperLo - Vote T

Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:58 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:
blues2cruise wrote:
HYPERR wrote:
blues2cruise wrote: is designed for short people.
Not with a seat height of over 700 inches! :laughing:
:laughing: I missed that. I was reading the text not the specs.
Silly people... that's the legal stuff at the bottom of the specs (I didn't include it here as it looks messy, but here you go: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyc ... perLow.htm )


:laughing:

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Seat Height, Laden 725.5 in.
Seat Height, Unladen 727.4 in.


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Regardless.....none of that adds up to having a seat height of over 700 inches....laden or not. :P
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Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:59 pm

faded sun wrote:You can't beat the mileage on this one though - 551 mpg on a 1200! That takes you almost 2500 miles on a full tank of gas. Must be something to do with sitting 60 feet in the air as you ride.

Whoever wrote the specs on this bike was high or drunk or a Harley marketing department burnout. And whoever designed it is trying to sell a "safe" motorcycle, whatever that is, to people who don't ride.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Unread post by Grey Thumper » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:51 am

I voted uncool, but it's more uninteresting than anything. Brakes are likely to be a fail though. Why would a bike that has some touring pretensions (ie, might occasionally be loaded with luggage and/or a pillion) be equipped with a single disk?

I'm more curious what everyone here might think of the revived Lowrider.
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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:40 am

Oh, I dunno...

I've gotta say, we almost had something special here. Clear away all the chaff, and what we're essentially looking at is a midweight cruiser outfitted for touring for under 10k. In fact, what we're looking at is exactly the sort of bike Carrie and I are looking to upgrade to, at least on paper.

But, then we get this 'designed for riders 5'1'' - 5'7'', lighter, nimble, yadda yadda'. Com'n H-D, come out and say it. "Ladies, are you sick of spending mile after mile staring at the back of your man's head from the pillion of his GeezerGlide? Come on down to your local Harley dealership today and buy your own LadyGlide!" Am I right? A shame, really.

It's also H-Dugly and screams 'parts bin'. This isn't a new bike, it's just bits and pieces shuffled together to form a new pattern. If only they did this from the ground up, stirred in a bit of that Fat Bob flavor and added that brand-new water cooling technology I've been hearing about on the radio, they could start a revolution.

Of course, then it'd be 25k. Whatcha gonna do?

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:07 pm

Grey Thumper wrote:I voted uncool, but it's more uninteresting than anything. Brakes are likely to be a fail though. Why would a bike that has some touring pretensions (ie, might occasionally be loaded with luggage and/or a pillion) be equipped with a single disk?

I'm more curious what everyone here might think of the revived Lowrider.
Great idea, I'll also have the Lowrider up on the Cool Wall later this year. But for now, please just stick to discussing this bike (mostly). :D

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Unread post by Mithrandir » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:24 pm

The MC has decent looks, but it does not seem right for me.

It does have some impressive specs:

Fuel Economy: Combined City/Hwy 551 mpg -- I'll be ready when fuel is £10/L

Engine Torque 253.8 ft-lb -- real stump pulling power from a 53.9 cu. in. engine

Seat Height, Laden 725.5 in. Too tall for me. I do not think this MC was made for shorter people like me. I think this is designed for your typical Jolly Green Giant. :mrgreen:

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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:11 am

After a week of thinking about the new Superlow I give it an: Uncool.

While I'm happy Harley-Davidson is bringing out even more models and more choice is ALWAYS a good thing. Even if I don't like the new options some else will and in turn it helps to get more people into riding because of the variety. But back to the SuperLo... I'm really happy to see another Sportster come out with the 1200cc engine, I was unsure what H-D was doing with the 1200 as the 1200 models were starting to disappear from the line up. But I'm saddened to see the new 1200 be just another "parts-bin" special that's just slightly different by adding something you could have had (in some form already) before.

The new bike's seat height is a little disconcerting as it doesn't seem directly targeted to women* (* women generally have shorter inseams then men)... I'm thinking it's actually an "oversea's bike*" that's available in the USA as H-D seems to be trying a diversified sales direction away from North America. * Japan, China, India.

Now, in general I'm getting a little concerned about the Harley-Davidson, they have some great models and a really distinct style, but what I'm concerned about is how slow they are moving to introduce something more unique to the market. The Street500/750 is a great start but what about the V-Rod engine in something else? What about all that Buell technology? What about liquid cooling in all their bikes? What about introducing some bikes with a much more modern naked style?

Lots of questions but little answers so far.

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Re: This Week: 2014 Harley-Davidson XL1200T SuperLo - Vote T

Unread post by sunshine229 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:32 am

I am going with Cool. It's a "cute little Harley" that is compact and clean looking. Of course it isn't refined with the best technology (it is H-D, after all) and sure it's super low to the ground for short riders (which I ain't) but overall I think it's alright for the right market.

(Mike... you may want to edit the specs so the footnote numbers don't give your community such misleading information such as 700+ inch seat height!!!)
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