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2014 Cleveland CycleWerks Hooligun R - Coolness Factor = 29%

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:01 pm

2014 Cleveland CycleWerks Hooligun R on the Total Motorcycle Cool Wall

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Featuring a modern engine and chassis...

CCW's Hooligun represents a relationship with one of our strongest JV partners. 4+ years in the making, thousands of hours of testing. Factory riders and customers have been racing validating this model for several years. It is finally ready for CCW to release it under our brand with the improvements and lessons learned through the last several years. This model was not originated by CCW, but we have been brought onboard to ensure the bike would live up to our standards, with constant improvement over the last several years.

OHC, 4 Valve, Liquid Cooled 450cc, full aluminum twin spar style frame, aluminum linked rear suspension, on-road and off-road versions available. A true Hooligun on the roads, keep that front tire down sir!

Hooligun R SPECIAL EDITION: $3,699

2014 Cleveland CycleWerks Hooligun R - Totalmotorcycle.com Specifications/Technical Details
US MSRP Price: Around $6000 USD
Canada MSRP Price: Around $6400 CDN
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Unread post by BRUMBEAR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:49 pm

I give it a cool while not my cup of tea that really does look like a fun bike and for $3600 I might just buy one!!!
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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:41 pm

Given the FaceBook-born clusterpluck that descended on us after the last CCW bike made an appearance on the Cool Wall, I can't do anything but Fail this offering. Any business model that includes trash-talking such a large and engaged community as ours just shows a lack of common sense, and I have to assume that bleeds into every other aspect of their business process.

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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:19 pm

Made in China

Nothing else needs to be said. Epic Fail.
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Unread post by ceemes » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:41 pm

Utter fail....POS company, with POS bikes and POS quality. Actually, along with a much need Meh option, we really need a P.O.S. option for shite companies and shite bikes.
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Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:17 pm

ceemes wrote:Utter fail....POS company, with POS bikes and POS quality. Actually, along with a much need Meh option, we really need a P.O.S. option for shite companies and shite bikes.
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Unread post by BRUMBEAR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:19 pm

UUHHH IDK much about the facebook thing but I just found out the Hooligan X is $6000 not $3000 so probably not, and I didn't know it was chinese I actually thought it was American. My fault for not checking but I have voted cool and it will have to stay but I don't think I'll buy one. Sorry for jumping the gun.
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Unread post by BRUMBEAR » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:30 pm

Oh I feel duped.....
http://cpimotor.en.china.cn/selling-lea ... -bike.html
I better quit drinking for awhile :oops:
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Unread post by Grey Thumper » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:25 am

JackoftheGreen wrote:Given the FaceBook-born clusterpluck that descended on us after the last CCW bike made an appearance on the Cool Wall, I can't do anything but Fail this offering. Any business model that includes trash-talking such a large and engaged community as ours just shows a lack of common sense, and I have to assume that bleeds into every other aspect of their business process.
Exactly. It's bizarre that they did everything they could to alienate potential customers instead of encouraging a potential purchase.
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Unread post by montanalifter » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:01 am

For 3 grand and some change I gave it an awesome, if its 6 grand plus then I would have to look very hard and compare it to Yamaha, Honda, etc. Looked at some similar Yamaha bikes the other day and they were 8k range.

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Unread post by ceemes » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:10 am

montanalifter wrote:For 3 grand and some change I gave it an awesome, if its 6 grand plus then I would have to look very hard and compare it to Yamaha, Honda, etc. Looked at some similar Yamaha bikes the other day and they were 8k range.
Sorry mate, but it would only rate an awesome if you consider taking 3 G's of paper money and putting a match to them a fun time, or just happen to be in a position where throwing away 3 G's is like tossing away a penny to the rest of us.

CCW bikes are notorious for falling apart even before you ride off the showroom floor. I would sooner buy a new overpriced Harley Davidson then even consider anything from CCW, and people here know what I generally think about HD's.
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Unread post by montanalifter » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:49 pm

I consider reliability and function above looks and price. I do remember now that these bikes have a history of poor reliability (that I have read) with that in mind I change my vote to fail. A simple reliable bike at a low price would be an awesome.

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Unread post by High_Side » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:22 pm

Cue the new members who are passionate about CCW in 5-4-3-......

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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:45 pm

High_Side wrote:Cue the new members who are passionate about CCW in 5-4-3-......

Hehe
LoL...
Nawww...

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Unread post by jstark47 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:26 pm

I did a little research. This is a Chinese-made knockoff of a Honda CRF450. The manufacturer is apparently an outfit named Asiawing, located in Shandong. The bike is marketed under a number of different brands, CCW is simply the latest to join the parade. Google Asiawing, and check out their LX450S - you'll notice a profound similarity to the "Hooligun R".... it's the same bike.

Badge engineering has always annoyed me, no matter who does it. Fail.
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Unread post by HYPERR » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:44 pm

BRUMBEAR wrote:UUHHH IDK much about the facebook thing but I just found out the Hooligan X is $6000 not $3000 so probably not, and I didn't know it was chinese I actually thought it was American. My fault for not checking but I have voted cool and it will have to stay but I don't think I'll buy one. Sorry for jumping the gun.
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Unread post by High_Side » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:53 pm

jstark47 wrote:I did a little research. This is a Chinese-made knockoff of a Honda CRF450. The manufacturer is apparently an outfit named Asiawing, located in Shandong. The bike is marketed under a number of different brands, CCW is simply the latest to join the parade. Google Asiawing, and check out their LX450S - you'll notice a profound similarity to the "Hooligun R".... it's the same bike.

Badge engineering has always annoyed me, no matter who does it. Fail.
That is the Chinese way - make a product as absolute cheaply as possible and then change the name when the reputation goes south. They care so little about brand and reputation that they actually ship un-named bikes in containers that every wanna-be motorcycle manufacturer badges as their own until the inevitable happens - they disappear. Just imagine if you had someone building bikes with a reputation as a goal in China. Charging even 20% more for a quality product would be a hell of a business model, still undercutting other quality bikes in the market by quite a margin.

That said I actually rolled dice on one of the early Chinese dirt bikes and actually did not too bad. For $700 we got a 110cc electric start bike that my son ran the "poo poo" out of. There were lots of compromises and no easy fixes as everything was a one-off but we sold it 3 years later for 1/2 of the purchase price. It ran well, but the electric start packed it in after several submersions by my son.

Would I risk several thousand $ on a roll of the dice on Chinese quality? Hell no.

So therefore this one is a fail for me.

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Unread post by faded sun » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:22 pm

Wow, now that is a reaction. Definitely something I missed earlier on this company. Not that I was gonna vote awesome or nothin' since I haven't wanted an enduro since I was a teenager.

That said it might be a good idea to pick one up as a collector's item since they don't seem destined to be in production that long...(-;

I looked at the CCW site and they are pushing the 'born-in-the-USA' button on their Canadian site. Well phrased. Too bad people have the terms "Public Relations" and "artful lying" confused. Looking at the rest of their line-up I see the design spirit is the one I associate with the dollar store. It almost looks like the real thing.
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Unread post by JackoftheGreen » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:53 pm

The history lesson is here:

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Fun reading if you get the chance. I find it amusing how many of the voters (still) have less than 5 posts.

And my favorite quote from that debate:
High_Side said:

And as soon as possible hire a low cost PR person, even if you can only afford them part time, and never, ever pick up a key board to defend your product yourself ever again. The survival of your company depends on it.
Beyond eloquent, and advice that good can't be bought. Let's see if they were paying attention.

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Unread post by faded sun » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:22 pm

Well the fan base certainly answered the call-to-arms on that one. Looked like 3 times (or more ) the response rate that usually occurs on this forum. I eagerly await developments. You would think the way to handle the China syndrome would be to be open and frank about it and handle the quality by backing it totally.

Maybe there is a demographic that just wants to tinker all the time. But the guy that's been off the road for a YEAR with a NEW bike? Does this company have a warranty program? I don't get how they could not be drowning in warranty work. Am I missing something here?
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