2012 Indian Chief Vintage - Cool Wall Vote: Uncool

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2012 Indian Chief Vintage

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2012 Indian Chief Vintage

Based on the 1948 Chief, the 2012 Indian Chief Vintage's two-tone paint schemes, chrome Indian tank badge, and fender light take you back to the era where the Indian Chief ruled the highway.

Distressed tan leather with fringe covers the solo seat and saddlebags to give the Chief Vintage a distinctive nostalgic look.

60-spoke chrome wheels with classic whitewall tires complete the vintage appearance.

Colors: Thunder Black, Indian Red, Willow Green & Ivory Cream, Indian Red & Ivory Cream, Arizona Turquoise & Winter White.








2012 Indian Chief Vintage Features and Benefits

Styling
" Chromed teardrop halogen headlamp
" Auxilliary driving lamps
" Die-cast console - color matched
" Black and polished engine with chrome covers
" Chromed spoke wheels
" Two-into-one stainless steel exhaust system with three-way catalytic converter and chromed shields
" Long skirt fenders and dual-tone paint available
" Metal tank badge
" Chrome fender tips
" Engine guards


Powertrain
" Air-cooled pushrod Power Plus 105ci engine
" Closed loop, sequential, port injection with heated oxygen sensors
" Six speed transmission Chassis
" Solo seat, with passenger pillion available in destressed tan leather with fringe
" 5.5 gallon fuel tank
" Brembo brake system with dual floating rotors and 4 piston calipers in the front, and single floating rotor and two piston caliper in the rear
" Two accessory 12V outlets
" Quick-release windshield
" Vintage saddle bags in distressed tan with fringe


Electrical
" Tank-mounted analog speedometer and multi-function digital display
" Charging system: 42 amps
" Lamps: teardrop headlamp, glass front fender light, auxilliary spot lights
" No electrical relays








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2012 Indian Chief Vintage - Specifications/Technical Details
MSRP Price: $35,999 Solid color, $36,899 Two-Tone color, USD

Dimensions
Length 100.5"
Width 40.5"
Height 50.5"
Seat Height 27.25"
Wheelbase 68.4"
Dry Weight 753 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight 1260 lbs
Rake Steering Head/Trail 34°/5.92"


Engine
Engine Type Power Plus 105, Air-Cooled
Displacement 105 Cubic Inches
Bore x Stroke 3.966" x 4.25"
Compression Ratio 9 to 1
Fuel System Closed Loop Sequential Port Fuel Injection


Drivetrain
Primary Drive Chain
Gearbox Six Speed
Gear Ratio (overall)
1st 3.77:1
2nd 2.56:1
3rd 1.87:1
4th 1.44:1
5th 1.15:1
6th 1.1:1
Final Drive Belt


Chassis
Frame High tensile steel
Suspension/Front Diameter 41 mm/Travel 4.25"
Suspension/Rear Single shock/travel 2.90"
Brakes/Front Dual Caliper with Floating Rotors
Brakes/Rear Single Caliper with Floating Rotor
Tires/Front 130/90-16 White Wall
Tires/Rear 150/80-16 White Wall
Wheels Spoked wire
Exhaust System Two-into-one stainless steel


Electrical
Electrical Instruments Aanalog speedometer and muti-function digital display
Charging System 42 Amps
Lamps Teardrop headlamp, glass front fender light, auxillary spot lights


Warranty 2 Years


Pricing $35,999 Solid color, $36,899 Two-Tone color


Colors
Thunder Black
Indian Red
Willow Green & Ivory Cream
Indian Red & Ivory Cream
Arizona Turquoise & Winter White


Standard equipment
Long Fenders
Solo Seat w/ Passenger Pillion
Vintage Leather Saddlebags
Windshield
Leather Fringe
Chrome Grab Rail
Chrome Fender Tips
Engine Guards

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2012 Indian Motorycle models. Indian's bright future.



With Indian motorcycle now owned by Polaris (who make Victory as well) Indian has a bright future ahead with substantial backing. The new 2012 Indian Chief models are just a glimpse of what is to come. Check out the new 2012 Indian Chief Classic, Chief Vintage and Chief Dark Horse and see the future. 2012 Indian Motorcycle Model Guide: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyc ... indian.htm

[madjak30]

Holy Crap!! Did you notice the price $36,899 USD...what will it be in Canada?? Over $40k?? Umm...no thanks!!

And with tassles...I mean "fringe"...I don't think the "heritage" of the Indian name is quite worth that entry fee...that and I'm just not into the style of the bike...I'll take th Victory CrossRoad for $16,729 CDN and accessorize, insure it, put fuel into it for about 20yrs...

Just not my "cup-O-tea"...vote: FAIL

Later.

[jstark47]

I'm mulling over Uncool vs. Fail.

There's a bunch of things I don't get here. (Actually haven't "gotten it" since 2009 when they started selling these).

• 1) It's a Harley clone. OK, a nice one, but still a clone. Yes I know it's a proprietary engine, it's still a Harley clone.
  2) It's 36K USD. The Chief Classic is $9,500 cheaper (still overpriced though.) For the extra $9500 I'm getting a windshield, two-tone paint, and nice leather saddlebags with fringe..... those must be some damn nice bags for that kind of money!!
  3) It's a Harley clone. I could go get the real thing, a Heritage Softail Classic, and have approximately 100 times as many dealers around to provide support. If I couldn't make up my mind about color, I could get two Heritage Softail Classics, and still spend less than I would on this thing!!!
  4) For $300 more, I could get a CVO Ultra Classic, and have something I could actually tour on instead of just pretty garage jewelery.
  5) And, by the way, it doesn't look anything at all like a 1948 Chief.

I'll be charitable. Uncool. It was a close run thing, though.......

[ceemes]

Had to think about this one. At first glance, I thought it looked cool but then I thought the same thing when I first saw the Chrysler PT Cruiser, but then you realize it was little more then a Neon with a body kit on it. And that the feeling I am getting with this bike, its a body kit fitted over some other bikes chassis and engine.

Yeah, it looks neat, but do we really need another over priced cruiser in the market? Sure the marque has history and tradition but what with HD, Victory and of course all the Japanese, Korean Chinese and even Triumph pumping out cruisers, you would think the market place was already staturated.

Think I will go for fail.

[Wrider]

I'm with you three, I'm gonna go with uncool because 37K for a 105 CI air cooled HD clone?
It's a cool bike in and of itself, sure, but overpriced doesn't begin to cover it...

[Grey Thumper]

Uncool. IMHO, there's absolutely nothing interesting about this bike.

[totalmotorcycle]

I went agaist the grain and voted: Awesome

The Vintage (or Indian look) isn't my style, but I have to say I'm highly impressed with it's fit and finish and it's vintage looks. The paint schemes are spot on for the era too. (look at the big 2000pixel photos here: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyc ... intage.htm and see what I mean)

Indian is older than Harley-Davidson (thus, H-D would be the CLONE of Indian, not the other way around). The price, well, it's too high like many of you have said and I agree, but it is good to see Indian back again with proper backing and support. Polaris is a big company and they can really do something with the Indian name, even make it bigger than Harely's if they get the marketing right.

2012 is the first year of re-introduction of the Indian again (after 2009), and there are only a few models but I do expect to see more either later this year or for the 2013 model year. These 3 are most likely the ones that were "left over" from 2009 or there were enough parts to put a few thousand together to sell.

Now the dealers have a choice to make since the last 2 collapses of the Indian brand didn't go down well and left "Indian only" dealerships high and dry, not sure what Polaris will do with this, maybe they will sell Indian and Victory out of the same dealerships then? Victory dealerships are generally brand specific anyways.

Now hopefully we might see some less bulky bikes from Indian (maybe a "sportster" like model) to get riders into the brand again and bring it back.

Ok, there is my 2 cents in there...

Mike

[mogster]

Indian is older than Harley-Davidson (thus, H-D would be the CLONE of Indian, not the other way around). The price, well, it's too high like many of you have said and I agree, but it is good to see Indian back again with proper backing and support. Polaris is a big company and they can really do something with the Indian name, even make it bigger than Harely's


Now hopefully we might see some less bulky bikes from Indian (maybe a "sportster" like model) to get riders into the brand again and bring it back.

Mike

Well said Mike! I was going to say almost the same.

I agree the price is ridiculous but presumably these bikes are just a tease & we will hopefully see more affordable models on the market soon.

I wouldn't want one of these bikes myself but if Polaris money can bring more competition into the "American" bike market, what's wrong with that?

I voted COOL based on the concept of encouraging a new (old) marque.

[jstark47]

Indian is older than Harley-Davidson (thus, H-D would be the CLONE of Indian, not the other way around).

The Indian that was older than Harley Davidson went out of business in 1953. This bike has nothing to do with that Indian company - stand this alongside a real 1948 Indian Chief and you'll see what I mean. This Indian company started in 2009, building on the design of the Gilroy Indian company (1999-2003). I'll give them 1999 as a start date, max. They are Harley clones.

If you want to see the closest thing to a modern real Indian, look here: http://www.kiwiindian.com/replica.html