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#11 Unread post by Jarlaxle »

Maybe it really is time to have a legal cap on HP/weight ratios (or even an absolute power/displacement limit) for sportbikes.

I wonder how much insurance for one of these would cost.

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ceemes wrote: You are probably referring to this blurb from the copy:


Not really, didn't even read it actually. I have been following this bike since it was announced a while back so I knew that the street version would follow later. This race bike is probably going to sticker for about $70K. The street bike will sticker for a lot less obviously.
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ceemes wrote: And even it is, how long do you think it would take high performance and modding crews to take your 200HP street legal version and up its HP to 300? I figure about as long as it takes to boot up a laptop. This is already being done within the high performance and street mods circles for cars such the Skyline. The same skill sets could easily be turn onto this monster.
I highly doubt that it would be that easy (not to mention) the enormous cost to bring a 200HP engint to 300HP engine. It that was the case, it would be done all the time. What you are referring to is de-restricting restricted engines, which is a completely different procedure.
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#14 Unread post by Jarlaxle »

If the "track" version is 300HP and the "street" version is 200, it's probably as simple as putting the "race" ECM in to crank the boost.

Heck...a simple ECM swap could add 30HP to the Chrysler 2.2 turbo thirty years ago.

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Jarlaxle wrote:If the "track" version is 300HP and the "street" version is 200, it's probably as simple as putting the "race" ECM in to crank the boost.
If you seriously believe this then I have a bridge to sell you.
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It's not a new concept...again, it was true for Chrysler turbo cars THIRTY years ago! (I did it.)

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Jarlaxle wrote:It's not a new concept...again, it was true for Chrysler turbo cars THIRTY years ago! (I did it.)
You are confusing the process of de-restricting a restricted engine with the process of building a race engine using high performance components. Example of the former in addition to the example you stated would be a CBR600RR in Japan eletronically restricted due to the "voluntary" horsepower limit per CCs. The restriction can be easily lifted to bump the HP from the 60s back to over 100 as the engine was built to be.

The latter is a completely different story. The street version of the Kawi is going to have much more pedestrian components (ie cams, pistons, valves, cyl. head, etc etc) than a $70,000 race bike.
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I just think putting a machine like this out there is great for a guy who is gonna race it. Without nasty electronics I don't see how you can use all the power though, I know whats gonna happen with it though same as all the rest of the uber machine like the BMWs1000r which I really like btw a shyt load of new guys who love to rip down city streets and get squeegeed up a hour later will cause ins rates to skyrocket more screams for noise and speed reduction so I am past that stuff and don't care for it sorry and especially when the zx10 is barely able to be contained on the street why would you need more on the street I am not interested and racing a turbo in anything but the 1/4 mile I got no interest in either.
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HYPERR wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:It's not a new concept...again, it was true for Chrysler turbo cars THIRTY years ago! (I did it.)
You are confusing the process of de-restricting a restricted engine with the process of building a race engine using high performance components. Example of the former in addition to the example you stated would be a CBR600RR in Japan eletronically restricted due to the "voluntary" horsepower limit per CCs. The restriction can be easily lifted to bump the HP from the 60s back to over 100 as the engine was built to be.

The latter is a completely different story. The street version of the Kawi is going to have much more pedestrian components (ie cams, pistons, valves, cyl. head, etc etc) than a $70,000 race bike.
No, you are not paying attention! There was no "restriction", the ECM swap simply turned up the boost pressure! The same is true of ANY turbocharged engine. (I have seen diesel pickups gain close to 100HP just from a tuner.)

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Jarlaxle wrote:
HYPERR wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:It's not a new concept...again, it was true for Chrysler turbo cars THIRTY years ago! (I did it.)
You are confusing the process of de-restricting a restricted engine with the process of building a race engine using high performance components. Example of the former in addition to the example you stated would be a CBR600RR in Japan eletronically restricted due to the "voluntary" horsepower limit per CCs. The restriction can be easily lifted to bump the HP from the 60s back to over 100 as the engine was built to be.

The latter is a completely different story. The street version of the Kawi is going to have much more pedestrian components (ie cams, pistons, valves, cyl. head, etc etc) than a $70,000 race bike.
No, you are not paying attention! There was no "restriction", the ECM swap simply turned up the boost pressure! The same is true of ANY turbocharged engine. (I have seen diesel pickups gain close to 100HP just from a tuner.)
The reduction in the boost pressure was the restriction. Once again you are talking about de-restricting restricted engines.
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