The political argument thread....

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Nibblet99 · Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:00 am

The soap box just didn't seem right without some form of olitical argument going on here....

So how about them handguns

bennettoid · Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:18 am

Yeah, yeah. Straight to the Bush bashing.

Had to start it right back up, didn't ya?

Nibblet99 · #3 Unread post by **Nibblet99** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:36 am

Someone was gonna, just thought I'd try to encapsulate it all in a single thread this time... BTW God Bless Gordan Brown, he's just saved me the best part of a grand, by raising the limits for stamp duty

Of course I'll have to pay it all back in beer tax, unless I switch to spirits

or cider

#4 Unread post by **Kal** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:49 am

Dont get me started, I just got back from an Fathers 4 Justice meeting...

MASHBY · #5 Unread post by **MASHBY** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:30 am

I am very pro gun im afraid.Coming from the UK when it is very difficult to own any gun legaly.There is still a lot a gun related crime.So it doesnt matter what you do Criminals can always get hold of a firearm.So why not let all people have them and use for home protection,Target shooting or collecting.Just my $0.2

oldnslo · #6 Unread post by **oldnslo** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:40 am

I would like a case of hand grenades.

Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:10 pm

I think Canada has a good system for gun control for civilians. You can really only buy non-automatic rifles and shotguns here. Handguns are only allowed by special permit and cannot be carried on your person.

I'm pro-gun, but I do not agree with the NRA on how many different types and styles of handguns, rifles and shotguns are "OK". Sure, buy a 12 gauge, but you don't really need a 10 gauge automatic or a full combat assult rifle do you?

I've never owned a gun, but thanks to the Canadian Armed Forces I've shot a few. Just not very good at hitting anything is all..

Although I do have a FAC (Firearms Acquision Certificate) for my 150lb crossbow.

Mike.

#8 Unread post by **9000white** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:33 pm

i think automatic weapons are more useful for self protection --then you can rely on the spray and pray method instead of pinpoint accuracy.

#9 Unread post by **Kal** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:00 pm

Thats the big problem with them though, and shotguns loads too.

You've got no idea where the rounds will end up... Not soooo bad in the case of Shotguns - a reasonbly solid wall helps out there but 5.56n rounds will punch through a...

Hang on... this is a wind up and I just fell for it, no?...

</grumble>

rwp · #10 Unread post by **rwp** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:41 am

totalmotorcycle wrote:I think Canada has a good system for gun control for civilians. You can really only buy non-automatic rifles and shotguns here. Handguns are only allowed by special permit and cannot be carried on your person.

I'm pro-gun, but I do not agree with the NRA on how many different types and styles of handguns, rifles and shotguns are "OK". Sure, buy a 12 gauge, but you don't really need a 10 gauge automatic or a full combat assult rifle do you?

I've never owned a gun, but thanks to the Canadian Armed Forces I've shot a few. Just not very good at hitting anything is all..

I've got to agree about the Canadian system. You've got to take some firearms training courses and then go through a security investigation to get a permit. Once you've got one, you're free to purchase/own as many guns as you like. There's a bit more additional training to own handguns but it's not that tough. What I really don't like is the requirement to register each gun and the silly semi-auto magazine capacity restrictions.

Years ago I was on a civilian team that beat out a Canadian military team at a match at CFB Shilo. Of course these guys were tankers and not expected to be crack shots. The west german team embarrassed us all though and took the first place trophy that year.