Shorts wrote:ceemes wrote:
Funny how we have no problem registering cars, motorcycles, aircraft, and other thing and require training and licensing to use them and yet people get their knickers in a twist over having the same requirements for firearms.
People scream and cry about having to wear seat belts or helmets don't they? I've expressed more than enough displeasure over a mandatory closed riding season. And those rules are "for my own good". I'm tired of my rights being limited for arbitrary control of a criminal's actions. That what these ignorant politicians tell me why we need "common sense gun laws" - so that we can keep guns out of the criminals hands, not "sportsman"
No one is trying to constantly prevent me from buying more cars, or more motorcycles.
Though you think if anyone really cared about statistics, they would.
So you sit up there in your naivete and I'll be down here, vigilant about the rights I have in my country.
I've said everything about as nicely and well-thought out as I possibly could in that other thread. I've cited laws and the constitution. I've talked about training. And frankly, I'm a bit tired of none of that making any headway for you to understand. So I'm just going to tell you butt out.
Edit a couple hours later: Ok, the 'butt out' comment really wasn't nice, so I apologize for that. You have questions. What I cannot get past however is the same questions asked, and the same answers given and yet the same question is asked again. What more are you looking for in an answer? It is apparent that a direct answer is not going to satisfy your questions or help you understand why gun owners do what they do. So it can either remain one of life's big mysteries, or you can take our word for it.
Shorts,
Firearms were a major part of my life when I was younger, namely the FN C1 semi-automatic rifle, the FN C2 fully automatic rifle, the Sterling 9MM SMG and the trusty Browning 9MM pistol. And when I was a kid, I owned a pellet rifle, so guns are not a mystery to me.
Now I don't hunt and I don't fear the stranger next door or down the street, so I no longer have a need for or even feel the need to pack heat. Nor do I fear my Government (can't say I trust the bas tards, but who does in this world?) and I don't fear my local Police forces.
To me firearms are tools that really have only one single purpose, and that is to send a lump of metal down range at high velocities with the intent to end a life, be it human or an animal. True they can be used to plunk holes into paper targets or tin can, but that is not what they are designed for really. By their very nature, firearms are a dangerous tool, especially in the hands of inexperienced and untrained individuals.
Now we all as riders have seen our fair share of idiots with drivers licenses operating an automobile in a manner that could be considered homicidal. Most of these idiots don't truly have a murderous intent, however they are a menace to public every time they turn the key. Now tell, do you really want people such as that with ready access to firearms without them at least being trained, registered and licensed first?
Also, when the US Constitution was drawn up, the Brown Bess Musket was the state of the art firearm. I very much doubt that the writers of the Constitution could ever imagine the possibility of a single person having the combined fire power of an entire company of infantry in a single weapon.
I have no problem with private gun ownership, however I do not see what the problem is with having those that wish to own a firearm be required to register the thing and to hold a proper license and insurance and take mandatory training. Seems to make sense to me.