Need help with my (2001 kawasaki eliminator bn125a)

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Need help with my (2001 kawasaki eliminator bn125a)

Unread post by Danielboone » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:33 pm

2001 kawasaki eliminator bn125a i dont get nothing when try start it just get click from solenoid replaced it got nothing but same thing changed battery with new one got same thing could it be my electric regulator and i tested starter after taking it off with 12v battery it turns over hard and loud idk what it can been bike is all the way apart checked all the wires they are good idk what to do im tired buying unneeded parts help plzz i payed 700 for bike and im passing it up on parts lol that i dont need by time im done with it it be brand new it got low miles and all plz somebody help it cut off while on way home one day then just clicks now

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Re: Need help with my (2001 kawasaki eliminator bn125a)

Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:44 am

My best guess is that your battery is not being charged. A few simple tests with a voltmeter would give good information to prove or disprove my guess.

You need to have someone SHOW YOU how to use a voltmeter to do those simple tests.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:07 am

Thats is true i put my new battery on and it dies fast do you know what help charge it bc this bike dont have a alternator
It has a electric regulator

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Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:00 pm

Danielboone wrote:Thats is true i put my new battery on and it dies fast do you know what help charge it bc this bike dont have a alternator
It has a electric regulator
A regulator is a device that controls charging. If you have a regulator, you have something that's designed to charge the battery (there are exceptions but they are highly unlikely in your case). Motorcycles don't have 'alternators' like cars do - meaning - a separate rotating piece of machinery usually belt driven. The motorcycle alternator components are usually under covers on the engine at the side.

You need a voltmeter and a service manual for the bike. Or someone who has them.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 pm

Okay thanks ima look it to this

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:14 pm

So again i order something i didnt need bc i ordered the regulator. A buddy of mine come over and check the voltage reading on my bike

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Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:10 pm

You still need a service manual.

I hope your buddy understands that motorcycles don't usually start charging the battery until the engine RPMs are up quite a ways. That's different from how cars usually are. Service manual should tell you what voltage you'll see at what RPM.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:31 pm

I also got told it could be the clutch safety switch, kickstand safety switch how true is that jw waiting om body get here

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Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 pm

Danielboone wrote:I also got told it could be the clutch safety switch, kickstand safety switch how true is that jw waiting om body get here
No. That's almost as bad as suggesting that your tire pressure is too low.
That your starter CLICKS says those switches are just fine.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:51 pm

How do we do that if the bike wont ever start

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:53 pm

Okay thanks and i have the manual that came with the bike and it the starter solenoid that clicks its not on the starter it nexts to the battery

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:55 pm

I have the service manual that came with the bike and it's the starter relay/ solenoid that's next to the battery that clicks starter dont make a sound i took it off bike and jump it with jumping cables and it turns over

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Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:02 pm

(second try at response)

Car starters usually have the relay ON the starter. Bikes do NOT.
That your relay clicks says that the safety switches are working right. If they weren't the relay wouldn't shift.

Jumpering power to the starter and the starter rolls says - your starter is fine.

Clicking relay can be- dead battery (because it's not getting charged when you run it or it's a dud and won't hold a charge) OR the relay won't pass current due to old age/ high mileage OR corroded terminals on the wires from the battery to the starter or starter to ground (if any ground cables).

Your first post said that the bike quit while running. Which suggests to me that the battery had finally discharged enough that it couldn't support the ignition system. Which points to not charging. Voltmeter test should tell.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:23 pm

Okay

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:24 pm

Bike has 47,000 miles on it and it got new solenoid and I cleaned all the grounds and cable wires all I got left to do is test the voltage

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Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:30 pm

Danielboone wrote:Bike has 47,000 miles on it and it got new solenoid and I cleaned all the grounds and cable wires all I got left to do is test the voltage
That's a LOT of miles for a small bike! All those steps should eliminate the other possibilities.

Another thing to be wary of is you probably need to recharge your new battery to start the bike to do the voltage test. I expect it's a pretty small battery which means that you can't use a typical car battery charger because it will put too much current in too quickly and overheat the battery (possibly warping the lead plates in it). Maybe 1 amp at most. Better 1/2 amp charge rate.


If you jumpstart the bike best to get the cables off quickly for the same reason as too big a charger.
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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:07 pm

But it wont ever turn over so can start it and i bought a expensive battery charger for motorcycles

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:13 pm

All it does is same thing after charging battery or trying jump it just click could it realy be starter motor not strong anuff

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:15 pm

Can't voltage test until I get it to crank and right now all it does is click after shutting down on me on interstate

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Unread post by Danielboone » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Can't voltage test until I get it to crank and right now all it does is click after shutting down on me on interstate not trying to aggravate you just i cant even get it started even when i jump start it or anything but click sucks

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