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#41 Unread post by Mintbread » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:37 pm

If I had a dollar for every ad I saw of a Harley for sale that stated "Never ridden in the rain" I could afford to own one myself. :wink:
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#42 Unread post by Kal » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:42 pm

XJRJohn wrote:I ride in any weather all year round.I cant say i enjoy it,In fact i hate it.I dont possess a car licence and have to travel 15 miles to work.Give me the chance to be a fair weather rider and id jump at it.Im building a bike just to use in winter just to save my other bike from the ravages of uk roads in winter.All weather rider i might be ,but i certainly aint committed.xjrjohn
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#43 Unread post by qwerty » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:27 pm

Mintbread wrote:If I had a dollar for every ad I saw of a Harley for sale that stated "Never ridden in the rain" I could afford to own one myself. :wink:
Yup, and you could buy me a SV650 with the left-overs.
XJRJohn wrote:I ride in any weather all year round.I cant say i enjoy it,In fact i hate it.I dont possess a car licence and have to travel 15 miles to work.Give me the chance to be a fair weather rider and id jump at it.Im building a bike just to use in winter just to save my other bike from the ravages of uk roads in winter.All weather rider i might be ,but i certainly aint committed.xjrjohn
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#44 Unread post by badfish89 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:13 am

i dont really enjoy riding in the rain unless i have too. I dont feel as safe with wet roads. Im not saying that i have never ridden in Rain, and i have ridden plenty in cold weather... but i dont like rain as much. note - I dont ride for transportation, more recreation. If it is for transportation i usually go out on a nice day. So does that make me fair weather?? perhaps.
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#45 Unread post by Damian » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:15 pm

I'm about as new to riding as someone can be, but this thread reminds me of something they spent a lot of time on in the MSF. Being safe is about managing risk. If you're feeling tired, sad, mad, sore leg, whatever, you're dealing with greater risk. Being distracted by frigid temperatures, or dealing with the loss of confidence that comes from wet roads increases the already significant risk that comes from riding a motorcycle in the first place. Some riders recognize when they reach the point where the risk is too great for their skill level and decide to park the bike.

It's safe, it's smart, and doesn't effect the OP or any other rider in any significant manner.

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#46 Unread post by PostHuman » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:44 pm

For those of us without cars, sometimes riding in bad weather is the only option. In cases like that, you suit up, watch your speed, and feel out your traction at every turn.
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#47 Unread post by camthepyro » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:55 pm

I use to have to ride in whatever whether there was, because I didn't have a car. Now I choose not to ride in cold whether, because I don't enjoy it. And I choose not to ride in rain (if I can avoid it) because I don't enjoy it, and because I've had too many close (and by close, I mean I almost died) calls on wet roads, to WANT to do it.
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#48 Unread post by Kal » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:17 pm

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#49 Unread post by qwerty » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:33 pm

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#50 Unread post by Dichotomous » Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:11 am

well depends on your definition I guess, I am taking the bike out of storage today at lunch, its not much better than 40 degrees outside, and wet, and will be the next couple days, but its not snowing, it will be sunday, so I likely wont ride then, and monday is supposed to see 20-35 or so on the thermomenemer, so I likely wont ride then cause cold + wet = ice = no traction. Vermont IS the land of ice, we dont get snow so much as ice all the time, even the snow compacts into ice. as long as there is no chance of ice, I'll ride, but the chance of ice is WAY too great here in the winter to consider riding much, even on dry days that get up to 40, there is still ice on the roads
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#51 Unread post by sv-wolf » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:19 pm

I ride in winter for two reasons. I don't have a car and it never occurred to me not to.

Riding in the cold can be bloody uncomfortable or even downright painful, riding in the wet can raise a degree of anxiety. But there is a lot of discomfort and anxiety in life, so what the hell! At least I'm out on the bike.

Call me stupid but I'd rather have an uncomfortable or anxious ride than none at all. Maybe I lack imagination, but when I decide to ride out in the wet or the cold, I don't think, hell this is going to be uncomfortable, I just think, great! some time on the bike. I might come home feeling like crud, but I left it feeling great. I just choose to forget the first and remember the second.

I don't think it has anything at all to do with balls or commitment to the bike or anything like that. I think it is just a habit of mind.

The thing that bothers me most about winter riding is the damage it does to my bike. Now I have two bikes and I'm not so bothered. :D :D :D 8)
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#52 Unread post by wickedrider » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:09 pm

What damage does winter riding do?

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#53 Unread post by Shorts » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:34 pm

wickedrider wrote:What damage does winter riding do?
Roads often are sprinkled with sand and/or salt to keep them clear.

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#54 Unread post by rhd » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:27 am

Mintbread wrote:... these limp-wristed part-time riders ...

you're kidding ,,, right?

Anyone who has the nerve to get on a vehicle with just 2 wheels and absolutely no metal between them and the road, other hard stationary objects and a wide variety of 4 wheel and more heavy vehicles whose drivers often seem intent on crashing into them and their motorcycles certainly shouldn't be called "limp wristed."
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#55 Unread post by Mintbread » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:16 am

sv-wolf wrote: Call me stupid but I'd rather have an uncomfortable or anxious ride than none at all. Maybe I lack imagination, but when I decide to ride out in the wet or the cold, I don't think, hell this is going to be uncomfortable, I just think, great! some time on the bike. I might come home feeling like crud, but I left it feeling great. I just choose to forget the first and remember the second.
Exactly my point.
Hence why I raised the point about commitment. I ride my bike every chance I get because I just love to ride, not because I like to ride when the sun is out and the roads are nice and dry. Yes, that makes it better, but any time I ride is a good time.
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#56 Unread post by celt » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:46 am

mostly fair weather rider here.

i will ride in the cold (i've ridden 20 degrees f.) but sometimes here in central NY we get black ice. i just about shat myself the first time i hit black ice & slid sideways my first winter with a bike.

i would be less of a fair weather rider if i didn't have to dress nicely for work. i go as far as bringing dress trousers and a tie in my backpack and changing when i get to work, but if it's nasty out i'd have to wear a rainsuit (which would make me sweat a lot so i'd be worse off than if i didn't wear one ;))

so if it's already raining in the morning i'm kinda forced to take my car in crappy weather. if it's supposed to rain on the drive home, i'm more apt to take the bike as it doesn't matter what shape my clothes are in going home...

however, when i don't have to work i generally don't set out to ride in the rain. although i'm not miserable if i get caught in it...just as long as it's not unsafe(windy enough to have branches fall on me and/or blow me all over the road; lightning storm, snow, etc...)

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#57 Unread post by NorthernPete » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:56 am

I guess Im fair weather, If its raining out, Ill take the truck.... and I cant ride 6 months out of year as well. snow kinda puts a damper on it. I did invest in a rain suit lately, and saddle bags to keep it in. so I plan on getting out a bit more, but horrible cage drivers in the nice weather get worse in the rain up here....
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#58 Unread post by qwerty » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:20 pm

I had a dog that was too dumb to come out of the rain. He smelled like he had been too many hours in a rainsuit, too.
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#59 Unread post by BlueBomber » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:01 am

I don't feel like reading all of the replies right now...too late...early? (4am)

I'm not, as of yet, a fair weather rider. I've ridden about 120 miles so far. 10 in total downpour. 20 in good conditions. 65 in about 40-50 degrees and 25 in 20-30 degrees.

But I bet the snow will stop me right quick...

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#60 Unread post by shane-o » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:52 pm

Mintbread wrote:As the weather has started to warm up down under I have noticed a lot more bikes on the road and more guys are riding their bikes in to work.
I, on the other hand, ride my bike all year round regardless if it is cold or pouring with rain and just shake my head at these limp-wristed part-time riders and constantly question their commitment to motorcycling in general.

We do not get months of snow over here that would make it physically impossible to ride so my question is only relative to cold weather and rain.

Are you a fair weather rider and if so, why?



yes, feel ya pain :)


I have also noticed alot of riders starting to get out there since the weather has become fine.

I also, ride all year round infact, for quite a while now, my bike is the only form of transport I have.

I must say though, I do prefer the roads dry than wet, but just cuase they are wet, wont mean I wont get out there :)

Fair weather riders = no balls ;)
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