Different type of bike...for a different type of ride?

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Different type of bike...for a different type of ride?

#1 Unread post by BlueBomber » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:07 pm

I like my bike, but I never end up doing the type of riding I bought it for.

I bought my Suzuki Boulevard M50 under the false impression that all the guys I know with cruisers that actually do ride all the time...would actually like to do it with me from time to time.

Apparently we live on different schedules. So I end up zipping around town and around some curves and twistys and hills...all by my lonesome. I end up being a small hooligan...in an underpowered and heavy for what it is bike.

My problem is that I know all too well that an 800cc cruiser is no FREAKING match for some 600cc sport bike...but I don't really know where the "rest" of the bikes line up.

For example, if I end up buying a 2003 Nighthawk 750...is that going to be a total joke underneath my large frame? (6'3" 279lbs) If I splurged in the end of year and got a late model Triumph Speed Triple would I end up killing myself before I even got the beast home?

Basically I'm just looking for people to suggest more "standard type" or "street fighter" style bikes that I can look at and dream about. Things I already know I like the looks of etc are:

Nighthawks (all used now of course)
V-Strom
Speed Triple
saw a Yamaha 850 special that looked nice
the new Euro only harley LOOKS about right too.


if you've got any on your wish list with the same ideas, let me know.

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#2 Unread post by Wrider » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:26 pm

Personally I'd love to ride that Speed Triple.. But for the type of ride, I'd also throw in the SV 650 and 1K... The Yamaha FZ6 is another good choice. So is the Honda 599 and the Kwaka Zr-7 and Z750. All good mid sized bikes for more of a sport ride...
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#3 Unread post by storysunfolding » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:54 pm

The Xs 850 is awesome... but doesn't get great gas mileage. I love it as my tug because it has nice torque and pulls the sidecar well. By itself, it isn't remarkable and is very heavy.

The V-strom is awesome though. :laughing:
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#4 Unread post by oxbow1 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:33 pm

I'm 5' 10" 240 lbs and I ride a Nighthawk 750, it gets me around pretty good, it has enough power to get me from 40 to 60 when I need to get a little distance between me and the cages.
I haven't been on the highway with it yet (NEWB) but it has some get up and go, I was told before I bought it that a 750 was minimum for someone my size (fat kcuf).I would love to have the Vstrom 650 and one of the site guys here (Mike) got one last year look around the site and ask him what he thinks.
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#5 Unread post by gsJack » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:44 pm

I'm 6' and 240# and a 500cc gets me around very well.
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#6 Unread post by oxbow1 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:53 pm

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I have a 30" inseam and I have to stand up on my peg's once I get rolling to TRY and get comfortable.I also have arty ritis in my knees,thats why I'm looking to get the VTX 1300, it's more comfortable,I'd have it now except my wife wants to pay the mortgage and feed the kids.
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#7 Unread post by jstark47 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:24 pm

Will! doood!! Where ya been? Nice to see ya back here on TMW.

As a large man myself, I can recommend a V-strom. The frame is large and comfy for a big guy, and the engine, especially the 1000 version, has gobs more power than your M50.

Speed Triples are seductively comfortable, but that throttle is twitchy. It's an overally smaller bike than the V-strom, and way more powerful even. I can't say anything bad about the Speed Trip, just be careful at first if you go that way.
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#8 Unread post by flynrider » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:54 pm

I like the Nighthawk as a good all-around bike. It doesn't do anything exceptionally well, but it does everything pretty well. The seating position and big flat seat are great for long road trips, as is the smooth inline 4 engine. It's also at home on twisty backroads, although you won't be waxing a whole lot of sportbikes, unless they ride like dumbasses (actually happens a lot around here).

With around 70hp at the rear wheel it's got enough power for just about any street application. The motor has been detuned to deliver more low end torque for the street. With hydraulic valve adjusters and an o-ring chain, it's about as close to "maintenance free" as you can get.

As others mentioned, there are other standards you can get, and most of them fall into this same general category. Decent (but not stunning) performance with a standard riding position. It's a nice combo if you don't need a specialized bike for a particular type of riding.

I used to ride a friend's XS850 and XS750 triples a lot. Those are great bikes if you can find one in good shape.
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#9 Unread post by mgdavis » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:44 am

You actually like how the V-Strom looks? You might want to go talk to an optometrist about that. :laughing:

The Strom is a great bike; jack of all trades, master of none, if you will. Power should be plenty even with the 650, and there's always the 1000.

If you want more of a streetfighter/naked bike, you could check out the SV650 too.
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#10 Unread post by Big B » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:19 am

vfr :twisted: god, those things are sweet, am really struggling to not trade the vtx in on one of the anniversary editions
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#11 Unread post by jonnythan » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:55 am

A BMW or Buell might be right up your alley.
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#12 Unread post by Brackstone » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:21 am

Hey MegaMan,

Well I know this might be a little bit "Hindsight is 20/20" sort of thing.

But I'm in a similar situation with you.

Lots of my friends ride sportbikes and I told them that I was looking into getting a Ducati Monster 696 or a Aprilia Shiver 750. All I keep hearing is.

"Oh Aprilia? I've heard of them, they make bikes that look like sportbikes but aren't actually sport bikes. Don't go away from the supersports that's what you need to look into".

Then I have to tell them "I don't like leaning over that far, most of the bikes are too tall for me, a V-Twin is probably more exciting around town."

It's almost like nobody hears what I'm saying, they always reply "I ride around a lot too it doesn't bother me leaning over all the time. If it's too tall just balance on one leg at the intersection when you come to a stop."

And they usually don't even answer about the V-Twin vs. Inline 4.

I've just decided that I'm going to buy the bike I want and if my buddies don't want to ride with me I'll ride by myself and find new people to ride with.

Personally I'll probably end up riding alone more than in a group anyway.
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#13 Unread post by koji52 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:24 am

Brackstone wrote:Hey MegaMan,

Well I know this might be a little bit "Hindsight is 20/20" sort of thing.

But I'm in a similar situation with you.

Lots of my friends ride sportbikes and I told them that I was looking into getting a Ducati Monster 696 or a Aprilia Shiver 750. All I keep hearing is.

"Oh Aprilia? I've heard of them, they make bikes that look like sportbikes but aren't actually sport bikes. Don't go away from the supersports that's what you need to look into".

Then I have to tell them "I don't like leaning over that far, most of the bikes are too tall for me, a V-Twin is probably more exciting around town."

It's almost like nobody hears what I'm saying, they always reply "I ride around a lot too it doesn't bother me leaning over all the time. If it's too tall just balance on one leg at the intersection when you come to a stop."

And they usually don't even answer about the V-Twin vs. Inline 4.

I've just decided that I'm going to buy the bike I want and if my buddies don't want to ride with me I'll ride by myself and find new people to ride with.

Personally I'll probably end up riding alone more than in a group anyway.
haha...that's fine man, I ride more by myself than with my friend who rides. I kinda like not having to follow or lead someone else.
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#14 Unread post by Flesher » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:38 pm

I would also consider a VFR800

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#15 Unread post by paul246 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:55 am

I won't trade my trusty dual sport for one of these, but if I was looking for an "on-road only" bike this would be the one. Absolutely.

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#16 Unread post by dr_bar » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:48 pm

paul246 wrote:I won't trade my trusty dual sport for one of these, but if I was looking for an "on-road only" bike this would be the one. Absolutely.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... 68093.html
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#17 Unread post by Zagnut » Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:07 pm

Im just wondering how if it was the right bike for you if yuo were riding with your riding friends...how can it be the wrong type of bike just because you are alone?...Cruisers are only a good choice for folks who ride in packs?. My advice would be just ride like you were always planning on riding...just do it alone if your friends wont go along.

Cruisers are good for around town stuff..and I take mine down some curvy roads....not suited for the curves like a sport bike but fun to take thru the curves as well...

Im just trying to understand the bike is only suited for you if there are other people around.... you dont need a dozen other riders to "cruise" you can do that alone...I do and I love it

or...

Is the dilema that since you have ridden a bit, you have found that you want to do a whole different type of riding than you thought you wanted to do?...the type of riding suited for a sport bike?...twisties and the like? ... and a cruiser would be the wrong bike even if your friends came along with you?

a v-strom could lead you down the same path. Its a dual purpose...so unless you are really planning on using it off the pavement, you may be better suited getting a bike that wasnt designed for dual purpose... I understand they are great street bikes and they have quite a following...I like them myself and dream of owning one...Im just saying dont pay for features you dont plan on using...

there is another option..... you just need six bikes!...lol

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#18 Unread post by paul246 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:39 pm

Zagnut wrote:a v-strom could lead you down the same path. Its a dual purpose...so unless you are really planning on using it off the pavement, you may be better suited getting a bike that wasnt designed for dual purpose...
I wouldn't class the V-Strom as a dual purpose bike, it does give a bit of that impression with its looks...but that's it. You can use it on dirt roads if conditions (dry) allow, but I could do that on my Valkyrie, too. Forget truly off-road.
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#19 Unread post by storysunfolding » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:08 pm

08 V-Strom 650's are selling around here for $6600 OTD. SV-650's are selling for more. Seems to me like you're getting more features for your money with the Strom
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#20 Unread post by mgdavis » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:13 pm

While the Strom is certainly no KLR, some guys get it into stuff I'd hesitate to take a Valkyrie. :wink:
Its bias is definitely more street than dirt, but with knobbies it does ok on mild off-roading.
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