Too many fatalities this year already

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Too many fatalities this year already

#1 Unread post by Skier » Fri May 01, 2009 7:40 pm

In Washington, we've had maybe 40 or 50 days of riding where there's no snow or the temperature is above 50 degrees F. So far, there's been at least 16 fatal motorcycle accidents. :(

A lot of motorcycles aren't even out of garages or the shops for spring tuneups.

The influx of new, young riders on sports bikes are proving to be an incredibly deadly combination this year. :cry:

I hope new riders get the training they need and use their noggins, it's a harsh world out there.

Is anyone else seeing a marked increase of accidents this season?
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#2 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Fri May 01, 2009 8:26 pm

I haven't noticed a marked increase in the number of biker fatalities. There was 1 fatality in my home town of Rahway, though.

Rahway Fatality

It was a little disturbing to me as :
1) A number of people left comments that he was a safe rider - but of course we don't have a standard for what a safe rider is...
2) He was close to my age (I'm 37 and he was 41)
3) Of course as I mentioned above - it is in the town I live in.

Searching for the number of motorcycle fatalities on Rahway over time I couldn't find anything, but I did locate this word document that was mildly interesting.

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#3 Unread post by RockBottom » Fri May 01, 2009 8:58 pm

I don't know about an increase but I got a little shiver this evening as I went through an intersection that I cross several times a week since a biker was killed there on Sunday. He was rear ended by a teenager while turning. I'll bet my house she was on her cell phone.
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#4 Unread post by Gunslinger » Sun May 03, 2009 12:21 am

I think there definitely is an increase in fatalaties where in live in AZ but I don't know if it's because I ride now and I pay more attention to it. I try not to let it bother me but sometimes I do wonder to myself, is today the day I don't make it home? It could happen to any of us just like that. The only driver we can really control is ourselves. I feel bad when any of my brothers dies or gets hurt out there on the street but the senseless ones caused by sheer stupidity are the worst. Stay vigilant my friends 8)

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#5 Unread post by king robb » Sun May 03, 2009 9:49 am

If you ride regular and long term...odds are you are gonna die while riding. Accept that, just as you once accepted you will eventually die. After you have done that, go back to enjoying the wind the sun and the road.
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#6 Unread post by Scott58 » Sun May 03, 2009 10:10 am

You can't dwell on it. Society is getting stupider as a whole and there's more of us now. I've been riding since 1975 pretty much all year round and there is no comparison between then and now. Roads you use to see maybe 1 other vehicle in an hour are now bumper to bumper. The cell phone issue, no discipline in schools.... the list goes on and it's a recipe for disaster. Not just with us, but every aspect of our lives. I look at it this way. If i survive more power to me. If I don't, at least i don't have to watch the eventual collapse of a country I served. What a waste of time that turned out to be.
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#7 Unread post by Wrider » Sun May 03, 2009 12:02 pm

I dunno... In Colorado Springs we've had 10 bikers die so far this year...
1 was trying to outrun the cops
3 were fully geared
7 were not fully geared
7 were killed by getting hit by other vehicles
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#8 Unread post by XB08 » Sun May 03, 2009 1:43 pm

I had a friend killed in Rahway years back. he was at the light ar 1&9 by the old Mcdonels and was rear ended. By a drunk driver. It happens no matter where you live or how safe you are. but when I read that someone when they lost control of the motorcycle, frist thing I think is new rider in a sportbike.

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#9 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Sun May 03, 2009 7:36 pm

XB08 wrote:I had a friend killed in Rahway years back. he was at the light ar 1&9 by the old Mcdonels and was rear ended. By a drunk driver. It happens no matter where you live or how safe you are. but when I read that someone when they lost control of the motorcycle, frist thing I think is new rider in a sportbike.
1&9 certainly aren't far from where I live, but fortunately I'm rarely on that roadway. I've seen a drunk drive on 27 in my car. Cut across a red light by going at highway speed through one parking lot and in to the Chrysler/Jeep dealer parking lot bouncing up and down the whole way. Really freaky and I was glad i was in a car. If they'd impacted the back of my car it probably wouldn't have helped us much anyway.

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#10 Unread post by demon_racer23 » Mon May 04, 2009 3:14 pm

Thats the only downside to more people riding is more people getting hurt or killed due to improper training or careless cagers.
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#11 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Mon May 04, 2009 6:31 pm

I did neglect to mention that a pedestrian died in Linden right next door to me over in Rahway as well. So, as always (tongue in cheek) be careful walking out there...

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#12 Unread post by BuzZz » Mon May 04, 2009 6:58 pm

When your number is up, it is up and there ain't nothing you can do about it.

I always figured if mine comes up while I'm on a bike, that's an acceptable way to go. Or sandwiched in between a blonde, a redhead and 2 asian women..... either one of those ways works just fine for me.

But that don't mean I don't wear my gear, watch for morons on the road or wrap it up..... I ain't in that big a hurry to go. :twisted:
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#13 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Mon May 04, 2009 7:15 pm

BuzZz wrote:When your number is up, it is up and there ain't nothing you can do about it.

I always figured if mine comes up while I'm on a bike, that's an acceptable way to go. Or sandwiched in between a blonde, a redhead and 2 asian women..... either one of those ways works just fine for me.

But that don't mean I don't wear my gear, watch for morons on the road or wrap it up..... I ain't in that big a hurry to go. :twisted:
Hmmm option #2... Perfect.

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#14 Unread post by Skier » Mon May 04, 2009 9:34 pm

I'm not really worried about riders more than usual this season, but it seems we've put a lot of the usual amount of fatalities in the beginning of the year. A bit depressing.

A nice 50 mile ride after work today before the rain did wonders to uplift my spirits, though.

The riders wadding up their bikes on the local forum makes me want to shove them headfirst into some riding classes, though. :frusty:

Ah well.
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#15 Unread post by Triumphgirl » Tue May 05, 2009 4:39 pm

Another issue is newer riders, riding with more experienced riders are trying to keep up and find themselves in unfamiliar territory. Go your own speed and comfort zone and stop worrying about that your buddies think your a "wimp" :ermm:

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#16 Unread post by mazer » Fri May 15, 2009 11:10 pm

Yes fatalities are up there are a number of reasons for this, one is that there are younger, less experienced bikers on the road and there are many returning older bikers on the road who just dont have the mileage under their belts but want the saving of riding a motorcycle instead of the expense of riding a car. ALSO, many of these new riders are getting on bikes that arefar more powerful than ever before, and many more risks are being taken as a result. Plus as long as lane splitting is allowed (is being abused) we are going to see more and more accidents.
Riding motorcycles is inherently dangerous, throw into the mix young riders on machines that can top a couple hundred miles an hour and are affordable - you will get increased deaths.

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#17 Unread post by cycleman3763 » Tue May 19, 2009 9:06 am

it's the cell phone issue. it needs to be enforced where it's illegal and made illegal everywhere! you should not be allowed to talk on your phone and drive unless you are hands free! I see it allllll the time.

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#18 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Wed May 20, 2009 5:40 pm

cycleman3763 wrote:it's the cell phone issue. it needs to be enforced where it's illegal and made illegal everywhere! you should not be allowed to talk on your phone and drive unless you are hands free! I see it allllll the time.
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I don't care for any cell phone use while driving cars. Very valuable studies have come out that hands free or not - increases the risks of accidents/fatalities.

I've pretty much stopped using mine unless I'm running late to work and need to notify them so they don't worry.

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#19 Unread post by Skier » Wed May 20, 2009 6:27 pm

Helping to prevent rider fatalities, my friend dropped me a line today and informed me he's in the process of becoming an instructor in my rider training program's sister program. :clapping:
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#20 Unread post by mazer » Thu May 21, 2009 9:57 pm

congrats to your sis and your friend...practice, practice, practice makes us all better riders.

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