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#1 Unread post by maxoverdrive » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:41 am

Yesterday I had my first experience driving in hard rain. I wear a full helmet and my visor kept fogging up. So i had to crack my visor open a bit to keep it clear but than I started getting rain inside. I've had issues with it fogging up before when driving in the early morning and i've tried anti fog spray and even soap and nothing seems to help to prevent it from fogging up. Anybody know of a good helmet or something I should try next time to keep in clear? I'm using a HJC helmet.

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#2 Unread post by Wrider » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:59 am

I know Scott makes some anti-fog wipes that work rather well from what I've heard. I know you can also get anti-fog shields for them but I'm not sure where. Make sure if you do get an anti-fog shield you don't use an anti-fog wipe on it.
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#3 Unread post by Gummiente » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:31 am

I have yet to find any product that totally eliminates fogging on the shield on any of the full face helmets I have owned.
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#4 Unread post by paul246 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:46 am

I leave my helmet visor cracked open about a finger's width all the time anyway. When it rains I only seem to get the odd drop in, must be the way I tilt my head into the windstream, I guess. The main point is I can always see.
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#5 Unread post by storysunfolding » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:08 am

There's no stopping condensation. However, I've found that leaving a vent or two open works well for my scorpion. You could always turn the AC on but leave the dash settings on hot
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#6 Unread post by Skier » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:26 pm

Gummiente wrote:I have yet to find any product that totally eliminates fogging on the shield on any of the full face helmets I have owned.
Same here, but using Cat Crap anti-fog works well to reduce it, as does shaving cream.
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#7 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:44 pm

I use RainX anti-fog wipes on the inside on my visor and RainX regular on the outside.

The inside one doesn't work 100% on the anti-fog. I can say from several experiences that on the outside with the water-repellent - this improves conditions greatly.

But the wipes are really for a whole windshield of a car and kinda wasteful. But I keep them in my tail bag for easy access most times when I ride to work.

Although I gotta admit I like riding without any bags better when possible.

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#8 Unread post by dr_bar » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:53 pm

I think if you did a search on this forum, you'd find several conversations about this topic. Everyone has their favourite wipe or compound to use, but I've trie just about everyone mentioned and none of them work well or for very long. The product that I found to be most effective is a Pin-Lock Fog Shield. They have models to fit almost every style of helmet as well as predrilled and pinned shields. There are also models that glue in, I don't like them for obvious reasons...

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#9 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:35 pm

I do wonder - do any of the anti-fog shields work? I was going to make this a factor in my next helmet purchase.

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#10 Unread post by dr_bar » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:24 pm

RhadamYgg wrote:I do wonder - do any of the anti-fog shields work? I was going to make this a factor in my next helmet purchase.

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I found that the only ones that truly work have a second shield inside the main shield. They form a pocket of air that forms an insulating barrier, in the humid climate here on the west coast, I find these work great...
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#11 Unread post by Skier » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:42 pm

RhadamYgg wrote:I use RainX anti-fog wipes on the inside on my visor and RainX regular on the outside.

The inside one doesn't work 100% on the anti-fog. I can say from several experiences that on the outside with the water-repellent - this improves conditions greatly.

But the wipes are really for a whole windshield of a car and kinda wasteful. But I keep them in my tail bag for easy access most times when I ride to work.

Although I gotta admit I like riding without any bags better when possible.

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Read the warnings on the Rain-X against using it on clear plastics such as motorcycle visors.
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#12 Unread post by Nalian » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:07 pm

+1 on the pin-lock here as well. I fog up helmets like no one's business (all that hot air, ya know) and that's the only thing that keeps my shield clear. Worked while snowmobiling, too!

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#13 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:24 pm

Skier wrote:
RhadamYgg wrote:I use RainX anti-fog wipes on the inside on my visor and RainX regular on the outside.

The inside one doesn't work 100% on the anti-fog. I can say from several experiences that on the outside with the water-repellent - this improves conditions greatly.

But the wipes are really for a whole windshield of a car and kinda wasteful. But I keep them in my tail bag for easy access most times when I ride to work.

Although I gotta admit I like riding without any bags better when possible.

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Read the warnings on the Rain-X against using it on clear plastics such as motorcycle visors.
Err what? I hadn't seen that.

A quick web search it appears there are a few bad effects the rainX can do to my visor. Not good. Brittle plastic, a permanent fog, etc.

Although some people don't seem to have an issue, I've been looking for better solutions to rain and fog - this just makes it something higher on my list of problems needing a resolution.

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#14 Unread post by Grey Thumper » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:05 pm

I use those glue on Fog City plastic things. They work, but they seem to be a bit fragile though.
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#15 Unread post by Skier » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:13 am

RhadamYgg wrote:
Skier wrote:
RhadamYgg wrote:I use RainX anti-fog wipes on the inside on my visor and RainX regular on the outside.

The inside one doesn't work 100% on the anti-fog. I can say from several experiences that on the outside with the water-repellent - this improves conditions greatly.

But the wipes are really for a whole windshield of a car and kinda wasteful. But I keep them in my tail bag for easy access most times when I ride to work.

Although I gotta admit I like riding without any bags better when possible.

RhadamYgg
Read the warnings on the Rain-X against using it on clear plastics such as motorcycle visors.
Err what? I hadn't seen that.

A quick web search it appears there are a few bad effects the rainX can do to my visor. Not good. Brittle plastic, a permanent fog, etc.

Although some people don't seem to have an issue, I've been looking for better solutions to rain and fog - this just makes it something higher on my list of problems needing a resolution.

RhadamYgg
Use Plexus for cleaning your visor. It will leave a nice slick coating the rain will slide off of.

If that's not enough perhaps try some automotive paint wax on the outside of the visor. Read warning labels, etc...
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#16 Unread post by JCS » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:16 pm

+1 on the pin lock. It works.
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#17 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:57 pm

JCS wrote:+1 on the pin lock. It works.
I searched for it - I got a price of $28 for the shield and $28 for the secondary shield. That seems little pricey, but then again it still seems worth it.

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#18 Unread post by Nalian » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:47 pm

RhadamYgg wrote:
JCS wrote:+1 on the pin lock. It works.
I searched for it - I got a price of $28 for the shield and $28 for the secondary shield. That seems little pricey, but then again it still seems worth it.

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The cheaper option is a Fog City face shield insert. I tried those as well and eventually upgraded to the pinlock. I wouldn't go back, now!

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#19 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:52 pm

Nalian wrote:
RhadamYgg wrote:
JCS wrote:+1 on the pin lock. It works.
I searched for it - I got a price of $28 for the shield and $28 for the secondary shield. That seems little pricey, but then again it still seems worth it.

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The cheaper option is a Fog City face shield insert. I tried those as well and eventually upgraded to the pinlock. I wouldn't go back, now!
I like to gripe about the money, but I know that several times I've gone cheap and the stuff I've gotten is just pure garbage.

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#20 Unread post by redwing » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:28 am

Hi maxoverdrive... I have a problem like yours except it is with rain. I post on another forum for BMWs also and asked the question
'Seeing in the rain???.
I got alot of advice all of which I want to use. They have several suggestions and some I see in this posting. Two suggestion that might take some time to get are 'Rain Coat' (one word) and another is 'pin lock.'
The forum's name is www.r1150.net and the posting is in the r1200r group. It is titled 'Seeing in the rain???'. And my screen name is redwing on the r1150r.net also.
The vendor for the 'rain coat' is
http://www.motosolutions.com/raincoat_reviews.html
and they sell a anti fog chemical also.
So I hope you find something here as an answer.
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