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Four wheeled Motorcycle...its brilliant!

#1 Unread post by paul246 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:36 am

There is no such thing as a bad motorcycle.

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#2 Unread post by Wrider » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:54 am

Seems quite a bit like a Piaggio MP3 with two rears versus one to me...
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#3 Unread post by jstark47 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:05 pm

Hmmph. :disgust:

Motorcycles have two wheels. If stability is needed, attach a sidecar. It it's got more than two wheels to start with, it ain't a motorcycle, it's something else. My two cents.
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#4 Unread post by paul246 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:27 pm

Wrider wrote:Seems quite a bit like a Piaggio MP3 with two rears versus one to me...
The article mentions that the same company that designed the MP3 for Piaggio also did this, so yes, they are definately closely related.
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#5 Unread post by High_Side » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:01 pm

jstark47 wrote:Hmmph. :disgust:

Motorcycles have two wheels. If stability is needed, attach a sidecar. It it's got more than two wheels to start with, it ain't a motorcycle, it's something else. My two cents.
At least it leans.....which is something I could never get my head around with a sidecar....

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#6 Unread post by dr_bar » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:41 pm

It's the type of engineering that the Canam Spyder needs...
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#7 Unread post by Gunslinger » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:19 am

Suweet. Now I can buy something that my motorcycle can do with twice the parts on it at double the cost. I like what one person said, "I need this like a dog needs a bicycle." And good luck taking this to your local dealer when you need service. If you are that damn worried about stability stick with your cage. I really like new ideas and "out of the box" thinking, but this seems to fill some sort of odd niche that doesn't exist.:?

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#8 Unread post by csspostal » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:33 am

an iPod when it first came out was an odd niche that didn't exist look at it now. Stop looking at it from an expirienced rider point of view. For a new rider think of it as training wheels get them used to basic leaning mechanics while not worring so much about stability or falling over in a turn. Once they feel comfortable take the training wheels off and go with a two wheeled machine. Or an elderly rider that may not have the coordination they once had unlike a trike, spder or side car it still gives you the ability to lean like regular motorcycle. An automatic transmission could aid in learning for new riders the disabled or the elderly as well. Another possible use is for disabled people former riders or new ones. The stability of four wheels could give a former rider that doesn't currently have the use of his legs or a person who has never had the use of their legs to get back to riding or riding for the first time. If god forbit I'm ever in an accident again or I'm lucky enough to live long enough to need one of those electric scooters I'd buy this first because its cooler :)
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#9 Unread post by Gunslinger » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:43 am

You're quite right csspostal, points well taken. I should have thought about that a little bit more before I posted. Although the taste is bitter I'm not above eating some crow once in awhile. :cheers:

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#10 Unread post by Wrider » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:09 pm

csspostal wrote:an iPod when it first came out was an odd niche that didn't exist look at it now. Stop looking at it from an expirienced rider point of view. For a new rider think of it as training wheels get them used to basic leaning mechanics while not worring so much about stability or falling over in a turn. Once they feel comfortable take the training wheels off and go with a two wheeled machine. Or an elderly rider that may not have the coordination they once had unlike a trike, spder or side car it still gives you the ability to lean like regular motorcycle. An automatic transmission could aid in learning for new riders the disabled or the elderly as well. Another possible use is for disabled people former riders or new ones. The stability of four wheels could give a former rider that doesn't currently have the use of his legs or a person who has never had the use of their legs to get back to riding or riding for the first time. If god forbit I'm ever in an accident again or I'm lucky enough to live long enough to need one of those electric scooters I'd buy this first because its cooler :)

Not quite true, I had an MP3 player long before the iPod came out, the only difference was that the iPod had a ton more memory.

Besides if that niche was begging to be filled the Spyder would be selling a lot more as would the Piaggio MP3.
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#11 Unread post by paul246 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:31 pm

Wrider wrote:
csspostal wrote:an iPod when it first came out was an odd niche that didn't exist look at it now. Stop looking at it from an expirienced rider point of view. For a new rider think of it as training wheels get them used to basic leaning mechanics while not worring so much about stability or falling over in a turn. Once they feel comfortable take the training wheels off and go with a two wheeled machine. Or an elderly rider that may not have the coordination they once had unlike a trike, spder or side car it still gives you the ability to lean like regular motorcycle. An automatic transmission could aid in learning for new riders the disabled or the elderly as well. Another possible use is for disabled people former riders or new ones. The stability of four wheels could give a former rider that doesn't currently have the use of his legs or a person who has never had the use of their legs to get back to riding or riding for the first time. If god forbit I'm ever in an accident again or I'm lucky enough to live long enough to need one of those electric scooters I'd buy this first because its cooler :)

Not quite true, I had an MP3 player long before the iPod came out, the only difference was that the iPod had a ton more memory.

Besides if that niche was begging to be filled the Spyder would be selling a lot more as would the Piaggio MP3.
The Can-AmSpyder isn't even in the same league. You can't lean that crate, just hang on while you get thrown to the outside of a corner while the wheels skip and skid. The Spyder is nothing but a glorified Ski-doo mounted on three wheels. I remember back in the 70's there actually was a kit sold that would allow a person to mount their snowmobile on 3 wheels and drive it all summer.
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#12 Unread post by Grey Thumper » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:32 am

I wouldn't buy one . . . yet. I just wish it were styled more like a motorcycle (like the Yamaha Tesseract concept bike). But the ability to lean + the security of 4 contact patches sounds good to me. I'd seriously consider one if I lived in a place that had snow, so I could ride all year (and the experience seems closer to traditional motorcycle handling, as compared with, say, a hack). Makes way more sense than a Spyder.
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#13 Unread post by zeligman » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:39 pm

would LOVE to try it :) or the 3 wheeler too :)
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#14 Unread post by paul246 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:25 am

jstark47 wrote:Hmmph. :disgust:

Motorcycles have two wheels. .
Wrong, actually.

Motorcycle is a generic term for any cycle that is motorized.

There are motorized unicycles, motorized bicycles (what most of us are riding ) motorized tricycles and motorized quadcycles. All of the various layouts also exist as human powered variations, which preceded motorized versions.

The term motorcycle is now understood to be the descriptor for the most common layout, the bi or two wheeled motorized cycle.
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#15 Unread post by jstark47 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:46 am

paul246 wrote:
jstark47 wrote:Hmmph. :disgust:

Motorcycles have two wheels. .
Wrong, actually.

Motorcycle is a generic term for any cycle that is motorized.
Four wheels = car.
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#16 Unread post by paul246 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:42 am

jstark47 wrote:
paul246 wrote:
jstark47 wrote:Hmmph. :disgust:

Motorcycles have two wheels. .
Wrong, actually.

Motorcycle is a generic term for any cycle that is motorized.
Four wheels = car.
If your car can lean that much in a curve you should consider a suspension check :? .
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#17 Unread post by jstark47 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:48 pm

paul246 wrote:If your car can lean that much in a curve you should consider a suspension check :? .
Hah! Good riposte! :lol:
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#18 Unread post by JC Viper » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:27 am

Nothing too new really. Yamaha unveiled a concept a while back and it looked pretty good. It had stability of a car and could be leaned and ridden like a motorcycle. I like the idea as long as they don't add a cage around it. Think of all the people who can go back to riding despite old age!

Someone who does testing for certain bike brands told me that hitting sand in mid corner on a bike means eating sh*t while with the Piaggio MP3 he just shrugged it off as an example why it works. So these developments do have their uses.

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