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Safety at a Harley Biker Bar

#1 Unread post by Marvin » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:04 am

When I pull into the parking lot riding my Japanese Scooter of the local HD Biker Bar should I park next to the full custom HD, or should I park next to the std. 883 HD Sportster?
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Re: Saftey at a Harley Biker Bar

#2 Unread post by dirt dobber » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:16 am

when i go i park where there is a empty space. what ever is there don't matter to me. i can brag, mine is paid for.

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#3 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:05 am

I have learned from past experiences that many HD Owners take offence of a "rice burner" parked next to their HD, and I kinda figured that maybe a HD beginner or woman owns a HD 883 Sportster and they wouldn't get mad if I parked next to their bike.
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#4 Unread post by Wrider » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:47 pm

Meh, park where-ever. If they start to give you crap, give it right back and most will start laughing and probably buy you a beer!
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#5 Unread post by JVRR » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:16 am

I will park where I want. I will help them talk about their insecurities if they need to.

If they decide talking is not enough, I'm probably screwed. :mrgreen:

But maybe I won't go to a biker bar unless I am packing :wink:.
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#6 Unread post by JC Viper » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:36 am

Never had that problem with the Vulcan or my current ride. I would usually just find a nice quiet spot though but usually some of the Harley guys would point out any space left should I pull up while they're around. I would just get off the bike with confidence and acknowledge them and be on my way. Not bad considering there are still Hell's Angels in NYC.

I guess you could find an empty spot somewhere else but nothing too out of the way. Many of these riders nowadays are working professionals who dress like an outlaw on weekends.




Heck, if it wasn't for those Harley biker guys I probably wouldn't have thought about a motorcycle. At 13 cruising home on my BMX after stunting I was cruising down a hill and a "bad Ar$e" Harley rider was coming to a stop and we both were cruising at the same speed and he gave me the thumbs up. I felt like I was a part of something awesome.
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#7 Unread post by sapaul » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:05 am

Marvin wrote:When I pull into the parking lot riding my Japanese Scooter of the local HD Biker Bar should I park next to the full custom HD, or should I park next to the std. 883 HD Sportster?
Park where you like, just make sure you have enough money for the first round :lol:
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#8 Unread post by Marvin » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:42 am

There is this roadside bar close to where I live and I like to stop there on the way home for the food, not the beer, and on most weekends its always filled with HD Bikers, some HD Bikers are friendly, some are not, there's a big window where they can see what type of bike is pulling into the parking lot, so I can't hide what I ride. Then when I walk in I sometimes get harrassed about my "rice burner" they will make childish sounds like "ding-ding-ding" and ask me if I am buying rice to pour in the gas tank. I just simply tell them at least my bike doesn't break down and burn oil out the exhaust, then some will make it an issue that I parked my Japanese bike next to their HD and that offended them. They make a lame excuse that if my bike falls over it might fall on their HD. They are just picking for a fight, they just have to prove to everybody else they are a tough guy just because they ride a HD
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#9 Unread post by JC Viper » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:09 am

Then I guess empty spot away from them it is or find a better bar with food. As long as it doesn't get physical then it can be brushed off. If you know the bar owners well then maybe they'd do something to prevent losing a customer. If it's in its own spot and not in anyone's way then there shouldn't be a problem. If it's still a problem then a nice anonymous noise complaint about said bar is a nice get back.

I'm mostly passive but was also trained unarmed combat as long as they're not packing so I just park wherever I'm allowed to park by local establishment and space boundaries with little hesitation. Verbal harassment I just accept though I vent online and take out anger on various objects.
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#10 Unread post by Gummiente » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:24 am

Marvin wrote:There is this roadside bar close to where I live and I like to stop there on the way home for the food, not the beer, and on most weekends its always filled with HD Bikers, some HD Bikers are friendly, some are not, there's a big window where they can see what type of bike is pulling into the parking lot, so I can't hide what I ride. Then when I walk in I sometimes get harrassed about my "rice burner" they will make childish sounds like "ding-ding-ding" and ask me if I am buying rice to pour in the gas tank. I just simply tell them at least my bike doesn't break down and burn oil out the exhaust, then some will make it an issue that I parked my Japanese bike next to their HD and that offended them. They make a lame excuse that if my bike falls over it might fall on their HD. They are just picking for a fight, they just have to prove to everybody else they are a tough guy just because they ride a HD
Ah, so there's the reason for all the angst. Quelle surprise.
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#11 Unread post by High_Side » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:57 am

I sometimes roll in with a group of the "big scary Harley riders" while on my "rice burner" (well it's Austrian made so no rice is required)and my wife on her Ducati (pasta burner?). They are the most real-deal "bikers" that I know and might look intimidating to someone who has seen too many movies, but in reality they know far more about riding and bikes than the average motorcyclist. Some of them even keep a sport bike around as an alternative ride because they are passionate about riding and they can appreciate all kinds of rides.

I suspect that you are being singled out for your nervousness or insecurity when you walk through the door. You are likely reading WAY too much in the whole thing. :mrgreen:

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#12 Unread post by Marvin » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:03 pm

High_Side wrote:I sometimes roll in with a group of the "big scary Harley riders" while on my "rice burner" (well it's Austrian made so no rice is required)and my wife on her Ducati (pasta burner?). They are the most real-deal "bikers" that I know and might look intimidating to someone who has seen too many movies, but in reality they know far more about riding and bikes than the average motorcyclist. Some of them even keep a sport bike around as an alternative ride because they are passionate about riding and they can appreciate all kinds of rides.

I suspect that you are being singled out for your nervousness or insecurity when you walk through the door. You are likely reading WAY too much in the whole thing. :mrgreen:
No I am not nervous or have any insecurity, I have no pride, I fear no man! No other Japanese bike stop cause they have pride, I like to use the word "agitate" I just want to prove something to myself, I want some excitement and I like to predict what they say.
I look at that bar as my home territory and I don't like outsiders there, the bar owner likes the business, he pretends to be nice and friendly to everybody, he has too, I don't!
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#13 Unread post by flw » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:56 pm

Either ignore it which is what I would do first or give it back to them while going to your table.

"Buying rice to put in that, No oil for yours to leak all over the parking lot" Its a sore spot amoung all Harley owners of age that remember the AFM Harely's (what a joke).

Don't make a stand just stand up for you. So ignore or verbally push back. Most bullies will continue until they get real resistance. You can also talk to the bartender during the week about being harassed and what they are willing to do about it. You are paying them and not the other way around.

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#14 Unread post by Gummiente » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:09 pm

flw wrote:Its a sore spot amoung all Harley owners of age that remember the AFM Harely's (what a joke).
AMF, not AFM. AMF = American Machine and Foundry
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#15 Unread post by JC Viper » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:09 am

Gummiente wrote:
flw wrote:Its a sore spot amoung all Harley owners of age that remember the AFM Harely's (what a joke).
AMF, not AFM. AMF = American Machine and Foundry
Every time I see that name I think "Bowling Alley" (which I know they own) and couldn't picture them owning H-D or running it.

Anyhow, people in a group tend to be a little obnoxious, plus since alcohol is involved well...
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#16 Unread post by blues2cruise » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:07 am

Marvin, park where you want, enjoy your food and then go home. How hard is that?

We all get eye balled by the biker dudes. Just smile and keep your mouth shut instead of trying to pick a confrontation.
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#17 Unread post by Wrider » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:10 pm

blues2cruise wrote:Marvin, park where you want, enjoy your food and then go home. How hard is that?

We all get eye balled by the biker dudes. Just smile and keep your mouth shut instead of trying to pick a confrontation.
Yeah but you get it for a completely different reason! :laughing:
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#18 Unread post by blues2cruise » Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:15 pm

Wrider wrote:
blues2cruise wrote:Marvin, park where you want, enjoy your food and then go home. How hard is that?

We all get eye balled by the biker dudes. Just smile and keep your mouth shut instead of trying to pick a confrontation.
Yeah but you get it for a completely different reason! :laughing:
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#19 Unread post by JVRR » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:59 am

I think you need to look at this like prison. You need to make an example of someone, just once, then they will leave you alone?
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#20 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:14 am

JC Viper wrote:AMF, not AFM. AMF = American Machine and Foundry
Every time I see that name I think "Bowling Alley" (which I know they own) and couldn't picture them owning H-D or running it. [/quote]

LOL.. is that true? AMF that used to own Harley-Davidson is the same AMF that owns Bowling Alleys? I bowl 5 and 10 pin and never made the connection. !

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