W.T.F. Were They Thinking? (Motorcycle Designers/Engineers)

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#21 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:39 pm

ceemes wrote:Dat's only coz they considered the low IQ of your average Harley rider and decided to keep it as simple as possible. They didn't want to confuse them any more then they already are or overtax their thought/judgement process.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
Mmm... no. Unlike the Japanese and British manufacturers, Harley deems its customers to be of infinestimal value (ie: the longer they live the more bikes they'll buy) and designs their bikes in such a way so as the average owner will not be crushed by said motorcycle falling over during routine maintenance tasks.
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#22 Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:42 pm

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Gummiente wrote:My Harley has an oil dipstick on a screw-in plug, conveniently located on the right hand side of the motor. Oil level is quickly and easily checked by unscrewing the plug and looking at the marks on the dipstick. With the bike on its sidestand.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
Dat's only coz they considered the low IQ of your average Harley rider and decided to keep it as simple as possible. They didn't want to confuse them any more then they already are or overtax their thought/judgement process.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
That and the ultra high oil consumption due to blowby and the leakage pretty much mandated a system that would ensure that the owner would be able to easily check the oil level on a frequent basis.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
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#23 Unread post by jstark47 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:45 pm

HYPERR wrote:
ceemes wrote:
Gummiente wrote:Just sayin'. :innocent2:
Just sayin'. :innocent2:
Just sayin'. :innocent2:

I gotta say, it's quarter to 7 on a Friday night, I'm still stuck here at work......... but you guys are making me laugh!!!! :laughing:
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#24 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:50 pm

HYPERR wrote:That and the ultra high oil consumption due to blowby and the leakage pretty much mandated a system that would ensure that the owner would be able to easily check the oil level on a frequent basis.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
As opposed to the japanese/Brit bikes that have a token sight glass to check oil level because the average owner never puts enough miles on it to need an oil top-up, much less an oil change.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
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#25 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:58 pm

jstark47 wrote:I gotta say, it's quarter to 7 on a Friday night, I'm still stuck here at work......... but you guys are making me laugh!!!! :laughing:
Just wait til Marvin and his scooter roll in here.... Just sayin'. :innocent2:
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#26 Unread post by HYPERR » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:59 pm

Gummiente wrote:
HYPERR wrote:That and the ultra high oil consumption due to blowby and the leakage pretty much mandated a system that would ensure that the owner would be able to easily check the oil level on a frequent basis.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
As opposed to the japanese/Brit bikes that have a token sight glass to check oil level because the average owner never puts enough miles on it to need an oil top-up, much less an oil change.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
You sure it's not the Ducatis that you are describing? :humm:
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#27 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:13 pm

HYPERR wrote:You sure it's not the Ducatis that you are describing? :humm:
No, Ducatis have absolutely no maintenance tasks that can be entrusted to the owner. That's why they have mechanics.

EDIT: Just sayin'. :innocent2:
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#28 Unread post by ceemes » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Gummiente wrote:
HYPERR wrote:That and the ultra high oil consumption due to blowby and the leakage pretty much mandated a system that would ensure that the owner would be able to easily check the oil level on a frequent basis.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
As opposed to the japanese/Brit bikes that have a token sight glass to check oil level because the average owner never puts enough miles on it to need an oil top-up, much less an oil change.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
What is it they say Harley's and Hound Dogs have in common? Oh right, both prefer to ride in the back of a pick-up truck then move under their own power.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
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#29 Unread post by flw » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:40 pm

My Goldwing has a dipstick and center stand which takes some practice at 800 lbs.

What is stupid is you have to remove two pieces of plastic panels to get to the dipstick. You win some and you loose some.
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#30 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:59 pm

ceemes wrote:What is it they say Harley's and Hound Dogs have in common? Oh right, both prefer to ride in the back of a pick-up truck then move under their own power.

Just sayin'. :innocent2:
Oh, please... you can do better than that. :roll:
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#31 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:05 pm

flw wrote:My Goldwing has a dipstick and center stand which takes some practice at 800 lbs.
I saw the coolest thing in Northern Ontario on the way home from our motorcycle vacation a couple weeks ago... we were at a gas station in Terrace Bay, sitting in the shade for a few minutes after refueling, when this guy pulls up to the pumps on a late model BMW touring rig. He shuts the motor off, flicks a switch and an electric centrestand comes down from under the bike and fully deploys with him still sitting on the seat!

I have got to get me one of those!
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#32 Unread post by HYPERR » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:59 pm

Grey Thumper wrote: The current version of our bikes, HYPERR; the R1200R. IIRC, the filler cap moved to the right cylinder ever since they had the twin cam engine.
I didn't know that. I wonder why, that's very silly.
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#33 Unread post by blues2cruise » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:17 pm

The kawasaki Vulocan 900. Kawasaki puts on a windshield so tall that it has to be cut down or changed. The clutch lever is designed for strong mammoth hands. Almost everyone has to modify it.
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#34 Unread post by NorthernPete » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:57 am

Battery box. Grrrr. Its under the seat and easy to get to, but once your battery is dropped into the magic box, try to get a hold of it to pull it out when winter hits. I usually need to use 2 screw drivers like chop sticks to get it up far enough to grab. And still end up racking off the skin on a couple knuckles. I should glue a piece of string onto the thing to make it a bit easier. Oh and the main electrical cable goes right over top to, so yet another obstacle. So glue a handle on the battery. Or hey, Kawai, make the batteruy box a couple inches shallower. Ugh.

Doesn't help that when I do this its usually cold enough outside to make you loose all sensation in your fingers in short order too. Lol
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#35 Unread post by rayian » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:38 pm

Is there any other company apart from Harley Davidson still making push rod engines?

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#36 Unread post by jstark47 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:13 pm

rayian wrote:Just wondering. Is there any other company apart from Harley Davidson still making push rod engines?
The new Royal Enfield UCE engines still have push rods. I think the 1700cc Yamaha Road Star twins are push rod.
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#37 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:33 pm

rayian wrote:There's a guy on another forum that I frequent who has the signature

Just wondering. Is there any other company apart from Harley Davidson still making push rod engines?
About a push-rod engine, it's a design look more than anything. In fact, I'd hesitate to say a push rod engine is more reliable than today's current design.

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#38 Unread post by Grey Thumper » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:50 pm

rayian wrote:Is there any other company apart from Harley Davidson still making push rod engines?
I think BMW boxers still used pushrods until pretty recently (like, last year).
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#39 Unread post by Wrider » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:02 pm

Still very common in the car world, but otherwise mostly bigger cruiser motors.
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#40 Unread post by Tennif Shoe » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:57 am

gotta add mine here because i an there now

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