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"Casual" Rider - yes or no?

#1 Unread post by gerjets » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:36 pm

I was at the beginning of a 5 hour ride last weekend on my 2010 Heritage Softail Classic and hit a stop light where I pulled up next to a guy and his wife (vs. a dude and his ol' lady) riding a HD Touring bike. I took a quick glance and noticed the guy wearing cargo shorts and flip flops and his passenger wife wearing similar attire.

What caught my attention was the dude wearing cargo shorts and flip flops. Yes, FLIP FLOPS - not tennis shoes, sandals, etc. They were like shower flip flops. His bike must have been over 800 lbs. My first thought was WTF???

I've been riding for many years so I'm kind of set in my ways. As an example, I ALWAYS wear jeans and boots over my ankles. I recognize that I'm an old dude so I'm wondering - am I just old and need to accept new trends OR was that dude a complete friggin' idiot?

I'll use your input as my guide.

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#2 Unread post by HYPERR » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:45 pm

LOL I can't imagine riding a bike in flip flops. I have only seen one person ever riding a bike in flip flops....and it was a BMW R1150GS. :shock:
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#3 Unread post by jstark47 » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:57 pm

You don't need to accept any "trends". But you also don't need to pass judgement on anyone else's riding choices. I ride with helmet / boots / gloves / jacket / overpants 95% of the time, the other 5% I have everything except the overpants. I live in NJ, but my 2nd job is in Bristol, PA, right across the river. Bristol's got to be the capital of the "no gear riding society of America"!! No helmet law in PA for starts, but they don't wear any other gear either. Except sunglasses. Always gotta have their shades on.

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#4 Unread post by agraebner » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:09 pm

I agree with jstark47 with one exception. I believe that this type of rider may be bringing a bad light to the sport and along with MY only helmet law concern, people should sign a waiver saying that the rest of us dont have to pay for there reconstruction or care later. If you old enough to make choices then you should accept the outcome of them.
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#5 Unread post by gerjets » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:32 pm

Hyperr...I was thinking about my toes when I first noticed the flip flops. Ouch!

Jstark47...agreed, I don't pass judgement on anyone - getting better at that with my age...I also ride in PA a lot...I ride with dudes from MD (helmet law state) who stop at the PA border and take their helmets off...I'm ok with whatever they want to do..I do my own thing...I need to visit Bristol for grins...like you, I don't judge.

Agraebner...my insurance states that if I choose to NOT wear a helmet in a state that doesn't require one, that they don't pay. I obviously wear a helmet everywhere (DOT approved 1/2 shell). It just doesn't matter that much to me...to each his own, I guess :-)

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#6 Unread post by mogster » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:55 pm

I don't see a problem with making a judgement on such irresponsible behaviour.......twine.
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#7 Unread post by madjak30 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:57 am

Here in Sylvan Lake, I see "squid behavior" all the time...the best one was flip flops, shorts, tank top & helmet on a crotch rocket...but the kicker was the guys 5 or 6yo son was on the back dressed the same...if you want to be a moron, fill your boots but protect your kids...dumb a$$!!

When it is 30C out (hot here) I get a lot of laughing and pointing because of my gear, but I just laugh and shake my head at the "squids" and their "protective gear"...the laughing used to bother me ("pee" me off really), but now I know that it is just people that don't understand the risks involved with riding...I choose safety over style (why the hell else would I wear a jacket that says "ROCKET" all over it??)

I guess I am judgemental, but hey it's their choice...I just choose to laugh at them!!

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#8 Unread post by VI Shadow » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:12 pm

I recognize that I'm an old dude so I'm wondering - am I just old and need to accept new trends OR was that dude a complete friggin' idiot?

I vote idiot. As for judging others. I agree to a point but as a Canadian where my tax dollars pay for the medical for idiots like this when they do something stupid, I think I have the right to judge :eek:

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#9 Unread post by HYPERR » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:45 pm

gerjets wrote:Hyperr...I was thinking about my toes when I first noticed the flip flops. Ouch!
That's what I mean as a HD Big Twin nor the BMW Oilhead have anything remotely close to a butter smooth tranny!
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#10 Unread post by QuietMonkey » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:54 pm

People in the Okanagan dress like this all the time. Ignorance is bliss (but sometimes not for as long as one would hope). It's 30C+ outside for most of the summer usually and I still wear the basics: helmet (full coverage), boots, gloves, (vented leather with armour) jacket, jeans. I often am on the highway though or taking a short in town trip. With all the mountain ranges it is sometimes +30C for an hour and then +10C for an hour.

I bicycle more often than not while in town rather than moto, cuz i like to stay in shape and enjoy more sun. If i think a nice vented cordura-nylon jacket with some armour is probably the way to go any place that is this hot or hotter consistently. Similar pants would be good, or something along the lines of an Aerostitch suit so you can where shorts underneath and enjoy the sun when off the bike.

Two recent stories come to mind: one guy broke his leg when the bike slipped away from him a little at a stop, and it eased over onto his leg and slowwwwly snapped it (heavy harley i think). A boot may not always save your leg in this case, but it probably beats a bare leg). Then another guy i met has road rash on his back, legs and arm... he says the pain, etc has lasted so long, all summer, and he's still redressing his arm everyday weeks after a crash (that wasnt his fault either). He did say he will never ride with proper clothing again.

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#11 Unread post by HYPERR » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:57 pm

QuietMonkey wrote:Ignorance is bliss
Until Isaac Newton says hello... :laughing:
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#12 Unread post by madjak30 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:40 pm

HYPERR wrote:
QuietMonkey wrote:Ignorance is bliss
Until Isaac Newton says hello... :laughing:
or maybe a Darwin award is handed to you... :shock:

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#13 Unread post by mogster » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:14 am

madjak30 wrote: or maybe a Darwin award is handed to you... :shock: .
I guess that would be a postumous award? :?:?
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#14 Unread post by ceemes » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:05 am

mogster wrote:
madjak30 wrote: or maybe a Darwin award is handed to you... :shock: .
I guess that would be a postumous award? :?:?
By the very nature of the award, it would have to be. You only get an honourable mention if you survive.
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#15 Unread post by havegunjoe » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:23 pm

I’ll go with “Complete friggin’ idiot”. Personally I am anti flip flop altogether. They were invented for beach wear and have become daily attire everywhere and at all times for the majority of people. I figure in a generation we will have a nation of people with deformed feet as a result. (Have any of your noticed there are a lot of pigeon toed teenage girls these days? Maybe a result of trying to keep those damn flip flops on.) I don’t always wear boots when riding but a sturdy pair of shoes at least. Unless you have a heal shifter I don’t know how you can shift in flip flops and not hurt the top of your left foot.
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#16 Unread post by mogster » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:11 pm

[quote="Personally I am anti flip flop altogether............ I figure in a generation we will have a nation of people with deformed feet as a result. .[/quote]

Slight deviation from thread but ........

I have a lot oif problems with my feet. This despite the fact that I have rarely worn high heels & I thought that bare feet (hippy dippy country life) & flatties were good for the feet.

Having seen many specialists I have been told frquently that flat or flip flops are really BAD for feet. Partly because in urban life we are constantly on flat hard surfaces.

The experts are indeed seeing younger people with feet problems because of flip flops & pumps.
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#17 Unread post by Crazyfingers » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:40 pm

Coming from a state with no helmet law (Rhode Island) I see more people ride without helmets than with. Personally, hospitals scare me to death, so I never get on without one. The other stuff is optional in my opinion...but shorts and flip-flops is just asking for trouble. I got a bad exhaust pipe burn on my leg as a teenager, so I never wear shorts either. Live and learn.
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#18 Unread post by jimbeemer » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:44 pm

Anyone who's ever spent a couple of hour getting gravel out of their kneees with a nailbrush isn't going to wear shorts on their bike again - and maybe not jeans. I wear the full gear. It won't save you from everything - I've got friends who are dead to prove it - but it helps. Don't forget the cagers are out to get you - wear bright stuff! :boat:

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#19 Unread post by storysunfolding » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:20 pm

jimbeemer wrote:Anyone who's ever spent a couple of hour getting gravel out of their kneees with a nailbrush isn't going to wear shorts on their bike again - and maybe not jeans.
Good point. For all intensive purposes there's little protection gained wearing regular jeans instead of shorts.
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#20 Unread post by madjak30 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:47 pm

storysunfolding wrote: Good point. For all intensive purposes there's little protection gained wearing regular jeans instead of shorts.
On asphalt I agree, but if you fall in gravel (like I did last weekend) I disagree...I dumped my bike at 50-55kph (32-35mph) and have a slight scratch on my left knee...I would have had it much worse if I were in shorts...

I'm not saying they are a replacement for riding pants, but they are definitely better than shorts...

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