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#21 Unread post by sapaul » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:07 am

Seems like this is a world wide trend, my take on all of this is that people must be getting dumber. They have this image in their heads that this is how they look when they ride like that and that obviously fills some void they have in their lives.

I cannot think of any other reason why an otherwise sane and reasonably intelligent person would so blatantly disregard their own safety.

As for the guys that do this with their kids, hey just give me 5 minutes with them in a closed room that you can't hear the screams.

Otherwise I give up, I have ceased to frustrate myself over people that get all emotional and "poo poo" and accuse you of preaching or impinging on their rights. Now I only talk to those willing to listen and have some common sense. It seems though that common sense is not so common anymore
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#22 Unread post by storysunfolding » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:29 am

sapaul wrote:Otherwise I give up, I have ceased to frustrate myself over people that get all emotional and "poo poo" and accuse you of preaching or impinging on their rights. Now I only talk to those willing to listen and have some common sense. It seems though that common sense is not so common anymore
Amen.

Of course common sense only comes from common experience. I view this as an idiot's right to self identify.
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#23 Unread post by dr_bar » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:27 am

ceemes wrote:
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madjak30 wrote: or maybe a Darwin award is handed to you... :shock: .
I guess that would be a postumous award? :?:?
By the very nature of the award, it would have to be. You only get an honourable mention if you survive.
Too bad so many of the listed awards are hoaxes :o(

My favorite one was the guy with the J.A.T.O. unit strapped to his car, hoax. What a rip...
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#24 Unread post by flw » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:48 am

jstark47 wrote:You don't need to accept any "trends". But you also don't need to pass judgement on anyone else's riding choices.
We all make judgements about people we see everyday, we may not say it aloud but we do.

But a saftey twit, is a twit, no matter what wrapping you put around it. We have all seen them. Shorts and flip flops are clearly a twit outfit for a bike ride unless your only at a summer party and drove your car.
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#25 Unread post by shane-o » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:25 am

gerjets wrote:I was at the beginning of a 5 hour ride last weekend on my 2010 Heritage Softail Classic and hit a stop light where I pulled up next to a guy and his wife (vs. a dude and his ol' lady) riding a HD Touring bike. I took a quick glance and noticed the guy wearing cargo shorts and flip flops and his passenger wife wearing similar attire.

What caught my attention was the dude wearing cargo shorts and flip flops. Yes, FLIP FLOPS - not tennis shoes, sandals, etc. They were like shower flip flops. His bike must have been over 800 lbs. My first thought was WTF???

I've been riding for many years so I'm kind of set in my ways. As an example, I ALWAYS wear jeans and boots over my ankles. I recognize that I'm an old dude so I'm wondering - am I just old and need to accept new trends OR was that dude a complete friggin' idiot?

I'll use your input as my guide.

Apart from all the obvious issues with not protecting your feet, geez it would be uncomfortable to kick up the gears with the skin of your big toe :)



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#26 Unread post by dr_bar » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:37 am

shane-o wrote:Apart from all the obvious issues with not protecting your feet, geez it would be uncomfortable to kick up the gears with the skin of your big toe :)

Isn't that why they invented heel - toe shifters??? :o)
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#27 Unread post by shane-o » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:05 am

dr_bar wrote:
shane-o wrote:Apart from all the obvious issues with not protecting your feet, geez it would be uncomfortable to kick up the gears with the skin of your big toe :)

Isn't that why they invented heel - toe shifters??? :o)

:) lol not on a real bike Dr ;)


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#28 Unread post by dr_bar » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:44 pm

shane-o wrote:
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shane-o wrote:Apart from all the obvious issues with not protecting your feet, geez it would be uncomfortable to kick up the gears with the skin of your big toe :)

Isn't that why they invented heel - toe shifters??? :o)

:) lol not on a real bike Dr ;)


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#29 Unread post by antigrav1117 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:54 pm

I generally dress as protectively as the weather and my clothing budget allow (insert- can't afford the super mesh bike jackets) lol- but I have on rare occasion chanced "mini-rides" around the block (VERY rural) with the wife 'cuz she was dying for a lil ride.. LOL - and on some of those I have worn less than choice foot attire (I actually got out on the road before I realized I had on crocs!). Still - as has been mentioned, these are risks, and there are consequences.

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#30 Unread post by vito » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:22 am

Why would you even care a s**t for what other riders wear or don't wear? I mostly wear my helmet, jacket, gloves, boots and occasionally overpants. But I live 1.5 miles from my office so sometimes I take the bike to work and wear NO protective gear (by the way, wearing a non-button down collared shirt can result in getting your face slapped non-stop by the wind slapping the collars against you). If folks see me riding without gear and they get upset, that's their problem. We each decide on how much risk to take when riding. I used to tell my students when I was an MSF instructor that some riders are smarter than me because they KNOW when they will crash and when they will be safe, since they are dressed sometimes NOT to crash. Each to their own.

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#31 Unread post by Lucky Lady » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:14 pm

While in Seattle last summer, in bumper to bumper traffic on the freeway, I looked two lanes over and saw a helmeted guy in flip flops on a big bike. I know: don't judge. But I just can't help but wonder what a person like that is THINKING when they put on their helmet, slip into their flip flops and head out onto a major freeway. They care about their head but not their feet? I don't get it. Wa. state must have a helmet law, otherwise he'd probably not bother with that either.

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#32 Unread post by jstark47 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:36 pm

LOTS of nerve endings in toes. I'll keep mine in boots, thank you. But there's no accounting for people.....
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#33 Unread post by dr_bar » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:31 pm

Did flip flops on my bicycle when I was a young child. Tip of the flip flop caught the ground as I was pedaling in an unpaved back alley. Dragged my foot right off the pedal and tore all the calluses almost right off my foot. I wasn't even going fast, I can't imagine what would happen at speed on a motorcycle... (Or maybe I can, and that's why I don't wear them... :o) )
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#34 Unread post by MmeMagpie » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:24 am

ceemes wrote:
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madjak30 wrote: or maybe a Darwin award is handed to you... :shock: .
I guess that would be a postumous award? :?:?
By the very nature of the award, it would have to be. You only get an honourable mention if you survive.
I saw one exception to this - a fellow removed himself as a contributor to the gene pool after using the ball washer at the golf course :)

As for flip flops, shorts, etc. on bikes... all I can think of is the pain of being pelted by speeding bugs and debris on the road. Cover me from head to toe. I've even found that the mesh jacket is cooler than without in summer - it's portable shade.

Allen, mesh jackets can be pretty cheap if you spend a little time looking. Try searching Joe Rocket on ebay. These jackets start pretty inexpensive new, and this can mean a mesh jacket for well under $100 if you're patient. I think mine auctioned for $30 (bought new for $140).
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#35 Unread post by IntoTheWind » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:29 pm

gerjets wrote:I was at the beginning of a 5 hour ride last weekend on my 2010 Heritage Softail Classic and hit a stop light where I pulled up next to a guy and his wife (vs. a dude and his ol' lady) riding a HD Touring bike. I took a quick glance and noticed the guy wearing cargo shorts and flip flops and his passenger wife wearing similar attire.

What caught my attention was the dude wearing cargo shorts and flip flops. Yes, FLIP FLOPS - not tennis shoes, sandals, etc. They were like shower flip flops. His bike must have been over 800 lbs. My first thought was WTF???

I've been riding for many years so I'm kind of set in my ways. As an example, I ALWAYS wear jeans and boots over my ankles. I recognize that I'm an old dude so I'm wondering - am I just old and need to accept new trends OR was that dude a complete friggin' idiot?

I'll use your input as my guide.
I'd go with lack of experience. I see someone like that ... I see someone that has never had to work for a living. Foot and ankle support is a must if you're going to make it to old age. Your feet/ankles give out ... you're done.

For example, my bike got knocked over of few years ago, in a parking lot - by a car. It went over far enough to bang up the left rear view mirror pretty good (had to have it replaced). If that wasn't bad enough, it was lying on a slope, angling downward - the tires were off the ground. I had to lift it up and set it upright. The GoldWing was over a 1000 lbs. Think this could have been done with shower shoes on? I won't even wear sneakers. I can think of a lot of reasons not to ware shower shoes.

A long time ago, I ended up on the table, getting my leg re-attached to the knee. I was waring full leathers - good, thick cow hide. That didn't keep my leg from being torn off. It did (or does), however, give me an appreciation for all the modern armored gear on the market today. To bad most if it don't fit.

Still, I don't care what other people do. As long as it doesn't effect me, or mine. There is plenty of stupid running around. To much for me to lose any sleep over.

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#36 Unread post by ShovelheadJohn » Sun May 27, 2012 10:03 am

I deck out in leather just to rip to the corner store and back.....I guess some people have to get hurt before they learn.....I just hope its minor......

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#37 Unread post by Ram » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:57 am

I ride with a club and often lead many of the club rides (none 1%ers) I really don't care what people ride when I pass them by but if they ride with me or our club they wear at least most of the gear (long pants, foot wear, Helmet) most at least wear a vest over their "T" shirt. I insist on at least this when riding in my group as I don't think It would be fair for the rest of the group to see un-necessary damage to someone (road rash) because they did not have enough common sense to cover up.

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