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1600 mile oil change?

#1 Unread post by Marvin » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:15 am

Many people say always change the motor oil once a year, but I changed in the beginning of the spring last year and I only put 1600 miles since then, I understand the moisture is in the oil from the bike sitting in the cold all winter,,, but after one ride when the engine gets to its normal operation temperature that moisture will burn off.
Should I change the oil anyhow after only 1600 miles since the last oil change, or leave last years oil in it and wait till a good 2500-3000 miles?
There are some guys that say changing the oil too many times can do more harm by staving the engine with no oil right after you change it before the oil filter fills up and you have normal oil pressure, and with the newer synthetic oils the oil is much improved that can last longer in the engine,,,,, but nobody makes a glass covered oil filter so you can't look thru it to see if its clogged with dirt and the bypass valve is open (later I will give everybody a lesson on the reason for bypass valves on oil filters and how they work),,, so here is what I have planned, i am going to replace JUST the oil filter, but NOT the oil, then add in just enough of new oil to make up for what I lost changing just the oil filter.
ohhh? you want to know what brand of oil filter I am using? Its the Wal Mart Super Tech #ST7317,,,, I know, I know everybody is laughing at me cause I am using a cheap $3.99 Wal Mart filter,,, but I did some serious research and its a filter made by Champion and its the same exact filter as a Mobil 1, I compaired it side by side with the Mobil 1 and its the same filter, even the same silkscreen numbers and print and even the same stampings on the base plate and if you would remove the decals you couldnt tell
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#2 Unread post by Wrider » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:52 am

I'm responding for anyone else reading this...
Change the oil. If you've only put on 1600 miles in over a year of riding, chances are very good that every time you start up the bike, it's got no oil in it's top end anyway, so it's having to relubricate the whole top end just like if you had changed the oil recently.

That said, 1600 miles since last year? I've broken that since the end of January. In cold CO. Please, sell your beloved t-minimum so that someone else can ride it like it's supposed to be ridden... Often and without a douche on board.

EDIT: Forgot to add that the whole Wal-mart filter thing has been known for a while. They do use a different filtering element, so it's not quite as good, but it'll work for anything short of a pretty highly modified engine.
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#3 Unread post by ceemes » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:43 pm

Wrider wrote: Please, sell your beloved t-minimum so that someone else can ride it like it's supposed to be ridden... Often and without a douche on board.
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But I do have to concur. :laughing:
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#4 Unread post by dirt dobber » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:51 pm

i had a 09 tmax, worked out i had it serviced about 2,500 miles. got a harley now, can go 5,000 miles.

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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#5 Unread post by pchast » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:25 pm

Not the point.

Even if you do less then that 5000 miles I understand that the oil needs to be
changed each year.

I do mine before each year's layup some have told me to do it after the winter.
I'd love to get a consensus, which season is a better time to do it?
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#6 Unread post by Johnj » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:55 pm

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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#7 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:09 am

harley can go 5000 miles?
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#8 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:15 am

my Tmax is like gold, it went up in value, in 2010 i paid $5400, now its worth $6200 used,,, I am the most popular person when I pull my Tmax into the local gas station, strangers from everywhere walk up and adore my Tmax asking me all sorts of questions, how fast does it go? what gas mileage does it get? how much did you pay for it? and they all say they want one, or they are going to buy one!

YOUR bike N-E-V-E-R gets that much attention!
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#9 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:26 am

by the way::: ask any Suzuki Burgman, or Honda Silver Wing rider whats the BEST maxi scooter, or whats his DREAM maxi scooter he wants?
He will always say he wants the Yamaha Tmax!
You can't buy a new 2012 Tmax in the U.S., and there are no more 09-11 leftovers and sooooo many people want one they are paying much more for used ones than what they were new.
The BMW maxi is coming out this fall, that is close as being as good as the Tmax, but it comes with a $12,000 price tag
The 2013 Tmax is coming next year as a 530 with increased performance and a final belt drive..



you know?? its really fun to own the best and the one that everybody else wants
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#10 Unread post by Wrider » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:49 am

1600 miles in over a year and you're making all of these claims???

I checked my odometer tonight. I bought my 05 Z750S from a friend on Jan 20. I've put 1700 miles on it since.

As for your claims of it going up in value... Hard facts time...
KBB lists your 09 T-Minimum for $5315 in excellent condition from a dealer. That's assuming there are no problems with it at all, no scratches, no tears, tires are new or near new, etc.
The MSRP on the T-Minimum was $7999. An average dealer makes right around 500 dollars per new unit sale on a vehicle at MSRP. Suppose you did manage to talk said dealer down as much as you could, heck I know our local Subaru dealer sells for below invoice in order to make it up on service/parts/etc., so say you got it down to 500 under invoice, that STILL leaves you short on what you said you paid. So either you're straight up lying, or you were VERY mis-directed by some tricky financing.

Either way value has gone down, you can't claim anything about a vehicle you've put that few miles on in that period of time, and whenever you post a video proving that you have people all over your scooter at the local gas station with the women swooning over your "Mel Gibson looks", you now have no rock to stand on.

From here on out, the only response to any post of yours will be to correct the misinformation present in every single one of your posts.
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#11 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:04 am

I purchaced a 2009 New Tmax in 2010 at a discount for $4995 with taxes and reg made it $5400.
I have $1000 of top of the line added Givi accessories on it.
I was offered $6200 from a private buyer, not a trade in price.
It has 3500 miles and in perfect condition
EVERYBODY wants one!
people tell me I look BETTER than Mel Gibson, I am younger and have longer hair than he does, plus much taller.
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#12 Unread post by Marvin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:09 am

The basic thing is I made good investment by buying a Tmax at the time when nobody else wanted one and dealers couldn't give them away.
Nobody knew how great they were at the time, I made a stab in the dark, I made a risk buying one and I won!
and I am just bragging about that!
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#13 Unread post by Wrider » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:42 am

Again, proof or STFU and GTFO.
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#14 Unread post by MmeMagpie » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:26 am

1600 miles in a year? That poor, neglected motorcycle :(

If I rode less than I do, I would definitely get it changed once a year.

As for the 5k oil changes, I'm guessing that's pretty standard for newer cruisers. My Honda's manual calls for 5k mile oil changes and, at the rate I ride, that happens twice a year. 8 years and 65k on the odo, and she's still happy with life. My ex-boyfriend's '03 Harley also got oil changes at 5k miles.
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#15 Unread post by Marvin » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:15 pm

MmeMagpie? I must admit the Honda Shadow 750 is the BEST cruiser bike that exists out there!
my bike is a scooter, its a Yamaha Tmax, I used to ride with a girl , she rode a Honda Valkrie, and she would always comment how "cute" my scooter was, she knows how to ride and handle that big bike cause I taught her how to ride it, now she forgot about me, never calls me anymore
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#16 Unread post by sapaul » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:35 am

Marvin wrote: now she forgot about me, never calls me anymore

now that's a suprise
I spent my therapy money an a K1200S
The therapy worked, I got a GS now
A touch of insanity crept back in the shape of an R1200R

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#17 Unread post by ceemes » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:57 am

sapaul wrote:
Marvin wrote: now she forgot about me, never calls me anymore

now that's a surprise
Not really, wish we could do the same.
Always ask why.

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#18 Unread post by dr_bar » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:57 am

If you taught her how to ride, I can only imagine a couple of reasons why she doesn't call, the main being that there aren't any phones where she is...
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#19 Unread post by Marvin » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:14 am

nobody that owns a big shinny cruiser bike wants to be seen riding with a scooter, I understand that, but what I don't understand there's a local scooter club thats made up mostly with Suzuki Burgman's and they refuse to allow me as a member just because I own a Yamaha Tmax, but at the same time they also have a few members that ride crotch rockets and other Honda and Kymco scooters.
nobody wants to ride with me, I don't know if its me or my Tmax, my Tmax is like the ugly girl that nobody wants, but when you get that girl in bed she performs much better than any other girl.
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Re: 1600 mile oil change?

#20 Unread post by jstark47 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:22 am

Marvin wrote:nobody wants to ride with me, I don't know if its me or my Tmax,
Pssssssst! Wanna hint? It ain't the Tmax.......... :humm:
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