This kind of quality takes a lot of work to achieve. I appreciate guys who are willing to put their sweat into a new helmet so that I don't have to. To me, this is as new as I ever want to get. The guy who broke in this beautiful Icon very rarely washed his hair, and I can smell it every time I get in it.
I know where you're coming from, but it really isn't gross. The most comfortable motorcycle riding gear (gloves, helmets, jackets, leathers, and boots) is well-worn. This also goes for gear not related to motorcycling, like down jackets.
Buying a well worn pair of gloves is a great way to learn about used gear. Heavy insulated leather racing gloves worn by another guy through a couple of summers should feel great. The way they smell and feel will give you an idea of what it's like to get in a used lid. Try the gloves out for a month. I bet you'll like the them. From there, buy a nice well-worn Arai or Icon for $50 and wear that for a month.
Defining my preference as a fetish is reasonable. A choice of words does not change the fact that I did not know what gear was right for me until I was actually in it. Also, there are many valid reasons for wearing previously sweated-in gear. Sweat washes away allergens that are part of the manufacturing process. Sweat is a natural conditioner. The oils found in dirty hair lubricate helmet padding, making it very soft. Therefore, it is preferable that the original owner of a helmet only rarely washes his hair so that his essential oils soak deep into the helmet padding, seasoning it for the next rider. Also, it takes at least three years to break in a helmet. I prefer getting in helmets that have been used every day for at least five years in hot weather by guys who don't often wash their hair. Right now, my Icon Alliance (as pictured, above) is sitting on a table about five feet away from me, with the visor closed, and I can smell it from where I am sitting. For me, helmet stink is an important indicator of comfort. The more a helmet stinks, the more comfortable it will be, not only to get in, but to stay in for an entire day. I keep an assortment of used helmets, each with its unique feel and smell.
As far as Styrofoam degradation is concerned, it can be an issue. However, most motorcycle accidents happen at a relatively slow speed. They tend not to involve extreme impact to the head. That doesn't mean one would avoid a head injury, if not wearing a helmet. I had one parking lot incident where I opened up the throttle as I entered a turn. Rain had just begun to sprinkle, and there was something slick on the rounded portion of my rear tire tread. So, the motorcycle went out from under me, and it happened really fast. The speed the motorcycle was traveling when I lost control was less than fifteen miles per hour. In fact, I don't think I was traveling more than seven miles per hour, but when the motorcycle flipped, the fall was quite rapid, and the mass of the motorcycle contributed to momentum at impact so that if I had not been wearing a helmet, if I'd survived at all, I'd probably be drooling and unable to write this message, right now. Would a compromised helmet have protected me? Yes, definitely. (BTW, on impact, my head felt absolutely nothing, even though I hit the ground pretty hard. I was totally surprised at how well the helmet took the impact, and transmitted the momentum energy around my head. It didn't even feel like I'd been hit with a feather pillow.)NorthernPete wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:15 pmWell, to be fair, I have bought a used jacket before. But the smell wasn’t really anything I thought about (it was very new seeming to me. But who knows with jackets) as for a helmet, I just would rather break it in myself and not have to worry about possible foam damage from previous owners or the degradation of the liner from said previous owners sweat. Just my preference.