center of gravity on a harley

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center of gravity on a harley

#1 Unread post by koji52 »

Some guy told me not to own a harley because the center of gravity is not where it should be, which makes it more dangerous to ride than any other bike over 35mph...is this true? I've never heard it before and I can't find anything on the internet to support his theory.

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That would be the first I'd heard of it, and I've seen bikes where the CoG would be higher (dual sports) and lower (some cruisers).

Any other discrepency in CoG (both in length and width of the bike) would have a minimal impact unless you were doing wheelies and stoppies (unlikely when you're learning)
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#3 Unread post by Nalian »

No - for one thing there isn't just 1 bike with 1 center of gravity. He may have ridden one bike that didn't mesh well with him, or a bike that had an issue.

Either way what he said is a buncha bull. :)

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#4 Unread post by Dragonhawk »

Just sitting on a Sportster freaks me out, because the CG is like 9 feet above my head.

But, seriously, the CG of a Harley is a matter of opinion. Yes, on the Sportster, the CG is awkward and way too high for my liking.

However, keep in mind that plenty of riders never notice things like that. Plenty of folks ride Harley's and have no problems with the CG. So, if you want to own a Harley, I wouldn't let the CG position discourage you. Try it out for yourself and see if it's comfortable. Doesn't matter if other folks aren't comfortable on your bike. Only YOU need to be comfortable on your bike.
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Dragonhawk wrote:Just sitting on a Sportster freaks me out, because the CG is like 9 feet above my head.
I hope that's hyperbole and you just think that it's a higher cog than you'd expect on a cruiser.

What that guy told you is a bunch of bull. Cruisers have lower COG typically which make their monstrous weight manageable. It's the same reason the goldwing has a low center of gravity.

Either way the only time I've seen a COG be a problem is at slow speed manuevering. By the time you hit 35mph your no longer noticing if your bike is top heavy or has a low center of gravity.
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#6 Unread post by koji52 »

thanks guys...yea he apparently raced motorcycles back in his earlier years...i don't know though...i just wanted to see what other people thought...i'm not physics major but what he was really trying to put across to me was the the center of gravity (maybe he said balance...im pretty sure he said gravity though) is too far back. He said most bikes have the center of gravity farther forward than on a harley, which is apparently " between the testicles". He said the difference is obvious when you switch from harley to another bike and if i can't see the difference i'm not riding material...i've never been on another bike though so who knows...haha

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#7 Unread post by Nalian »

The biggest issue with what he said is the fact that harley has a crapload of differen bikes - all very different from one another in how they feel/COG wise. A sportster is a completely different beast than a dyna, for example.

I'd question a lot of what he tells you if that's the kind of 'advice' he's going to impart.

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#8 Unread post by koji52 »

true..which is why i'm still sticking with my harley haha

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For sure, Harleys receive more sweeping generalizations than any other brand (or style) of bike.

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Re: center of gravity on a harley

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koji52 wrote:Some guy told me not to own a harley because the center of gravity is not where it should be, which makes it more dangerous to ride than any other bike over 35mph...is this true? I've never heard it before and I can't find anything on the internet to support his theory.
My wife and I just bought an 07 harley sportster custom (XL883C) and it does not feel unsafe at all above 35 mph. The seating position with the forward controls felt a little weird at first compared to my Monster but once you get used to it, the Sportster is a fun bike to ride.

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