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#21 Unread post by tropicalhotdog » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:09 pm

yeah. physics is a b*tch.
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#22 Unread post by Brackstone » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:17 pm

Septimus wrote:A light sportbike like a Ninja weighs around 400 pounds with gas (the 500 is a little more than 400, I think the 250 is a little under it).
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Wow 500 lbs. I'm still lifting 2 10 lb dumbells! I do have strong legs though. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope the physics gremlins don't get me :)

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#23 Unread post by IcyHound » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:18 pm

My last reason was the wildlife lashing back!

Due to the incredible upswing of deer deaths by vehicles, the council of the doe decided it was time to act back.

These terrorist like activities take place at all hours of the day. They are aimed at vehicles moving down those nice black pathways the deer could use to facilitate their moving from one grazing area to another.

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#24 Unread post by ShadowGrrl » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:56 pm

Do people's legs get pinned under their bike sometimes when they dump it?
When I dumped my Ninja in my garage (oops, there's a sidestand??), I tipped with it, onto my left side. It was no problem to get my leg out from underneath after the initial "I'm a friggin' idiot" thought, and it was relatively easy to pick it up........ But it made me think about getting engine guards for my Shadow, to at least make sure I a) don't get my leg pinned underneath, and b) to make it easier to pick up. Its a bit heavier and unweildy than the Ninja.

A friend of mine who rides a Buell Blast, tried to catch her bike while it tipped, by putting her feet down, and her hip and back was sore for a while afterwards. Trying to resist a 400+ lb bike, on top of gravity, must did a number on her body![/quote]
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#25 Unread post by Septimus » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:21 pm

Yeah, engine bars and frame sliders can be a good investment, depending on your bike. I'd rather pay $150 for those than have medical bills for trying to use my quads to brake the bike. :)

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#26 Unread post by ceemes » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:51 pm

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ceemes wrote: Coming out of a driveway after just it stopped raining after long hot spell, crossing to the other side of the road, and punching it just as your rear tyre hits the double yellow while your are still in your turn.............and end up landing flat on your back........guilty.
Ah yes! The "Wet road paint" dump! Haven't done that yet *knock wood*
That's interesting, glad I'm taking the Safety Course one more thing I wouldn't have known! Is this also true for the white dotted lines that divide up the lanes?
Not sure about your part of the world, but here in the many parts of BC road lines are not paint, but rather thermal plastic, that is to say they spray a thick layer of melted plastic down on to the tarmac and it is hot enough to actually burn and embed itself into the road surface.....and while the stuff last a hell of a lot longer then traditional paint, its bloody slick and dangerous to motorbike even when its dry out......
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#27 Unread post by ceemes » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:52 pm

Gummiente wrote:
ShadowGrrl wrote:Some common causes for dumping a bike...

1) Forgetting to put sidestand down (done that!)
2) Stopping with the bars turned (done that at the BRC during the box exercise....oops)
3) gravel/sand/etc on road on a turn, making the rear wheel skid out a little
4) stalling the bike and freaking out
5) crowned roads....putting a foot down during a stop and realizing that the ground is a little farther down than expected, and the bike tips over and you can't save it (done that, too!)
6) Rider ego....trying to ride beyond his or her skill level
7) starting on hills sometimes result in people dumping
Falling over at a stoplight because you forgot that you'd just taken the sidecar off that morning.

Didn't happen to me, though. It was a friend. Yeah, that's it... a friend. :oops:
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#28 Unread post by ceemes » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:59 pm

One other......soft asphalt and side stands do not mix......

Parked me CB750 Custom at the local Skytrain station, shut the engine off, removed the key, put down the side stand and started dismounting....only to have the side stand start to dig its way to China through the soft asphalt....and like an idiot, I tried to stop from tipping on to its side while I had one foot panted firmly on the ground and my other leg hoovering over the saddle........did my back a world of good not.......and then I got to learn just how bloody heavy those old Honda customs are.....
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#29 Unread post by Ian522 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:15 pm

I think its better to just let the bike go if its tipping over. Recently when I forgot to put my kickstand down I almost dislocated my shoulder by jerking my bike back upright. A scratch or dent you can fix but if you hurt yourself you are pretty screwed.

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#30 Unread post by -Holiday » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:50 pm

you could uhh, take a turn too wide and fall of the edge of the road.

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i don't know anyone that is stupid enough to have ever done that though.
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#31 Unread post by OLR77 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:04 pm

New Bike, thought I was cool and all, pulled up to the gym which has bike parking directly infront of the front doors, THOUGHT i put the kickstand down and over she went........

Picked her up, put my helmet back on and drove away.....quickly....

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#32 Unread post by SPDSTR » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:20 pm

Brackstone wrote:
ShadowGrrl wrote:
ceemes wrote: Coming out of a driveway after just it stopped raining after long hot spell, crossing to the other side of the road, and punching it just as your rear tyre hits the double yellow while your are still in your turn.............and end up landing flat on your back........guilty.
Ah yes! The "Wet road paint" dump! Haven't done that yet *knock wood*
That's interesting, glad I'm taking the Safety Course one more thing I wouldn't have known! Is this also true for the white dotted lines that divide up the lanes?
Not sure if this has been said, but it's true for any painted road surface.

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