How to brace yourself in an event of a crash?
- Erg0n
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How to brace yourself in an event of a crash?
When you are about to crash what's the best body position to try and get into when sliding on the ground?
Is it better to try and slide of your back, side or front. where do you keep your arms and legs? I know when youre in a car and it starts to roll over you cross your arms and hold onto your shoulders with your hands (holding the wheel can break your thumbs, saw this in a rally car tv show once)
Just would like to know in case the unthinkable happens
Is it better to try and slide of your back, side or front. where do you keep your arms and legs? I know when youre in a car and it starts to roll over you cross your arms and hold onto your shoulders with your hands (holding the wheel can break your thumbs, saw this in a rally car tv show once)
Just would like to know in case the unthinkable happens
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** I hate posts like I just made here, so if crash details bother you, please ignore and move past this. I made an exception cause it may help someone **
If you have one of those motorcycles that has a seat sloping down towards the gas tank, and the gas tank sits high, in essence makig a V shape with you sitting in the middle of the V, (an SV650 is styled like this), you may want to consider standing on the pegs so you can be thrown clear (use your judgement here).
I have two friends that crashed on bikes styled that way, and because of the position of the seat and the tank they were forced into the tank separating their pelvis in two from the center on out, and then tossed clear. One of them had his pelvis broken wide enough that they were unabe to bring it back fully together in the center before bolting it.
I don't know if the styling of the bike is really the reason, but judging by the style of the bike, the condition of the tank (squeezed on both sides) after the accidents, and what these guys remember of their crash we came to the conclusion that less severe injuries would have been sustained if not for the bike getting in the way. Amateur sleuthing ... YMMV
If you have one of those motorcycles that has a seat sloping down towards the gas tank, and the gas tank sits high, in essence makig a V shape with you sitting in the middle of the V, (an SV650 is styled like this), you may want to consider standing on the pegs so you can be thrown clear (use your judgement here).
I have two friends that crashed on bikes styled that way, and because of the position of the seat and the tank they were forced into the tank separating their pelvis in two from the center on out, and then tossed clear. One of them had his pelvis broken wide enough that they were unabe to bring it back fully together in the center before bolting it.
I don't know if the styling of the bike is really the reason, but judging by the style of the bike, the condition of the tank (squeezed on both sides) after the accidents, and what these guys remember of their crash we came to the conclusion that less severe injuries would have been sustained if not for the bike getting in the way. Amateur sleuthing ... YMMV
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Can't say I've crashed a street bike. Crashed plenty on the dirt bike though. It's usually the same story once you cross that "not coming back" line- a mad scramble to get clear of the bike and whatever you're about to splat into, followed by some bouncing and rolling
I would say that this question is sort of pointless because if you have enough time to actually do something about how you intend to crash, then you have enough time to do something about NOT crashing. The one that hurts is the one you don't see coming.
I would say that this question is sort of pointless because if you have enough time to actually do something about how you intend to crash, then you have enough time to do something about NOT crashing. The one that hurts is the one you don't see coming.
This is the worst advice ever.Super Dave wrote:Little advice...don't grab the front brake!! I still have a tendency to reach for it when I have to unexpectedly brake
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dont crash.
Most of my worry isnt hitting the deck, or even throwing my bike down the road, my major concern about fooking up to the point of comming off is, what am i going to hit while sliding and rolling down the road, and what is about to hit me, and neither do you have a say in it when your out of the seat and heading roadward.
dont crash
Most of my worry isnt hitting the deck, or even throwing my bike down the road, my major concern about fooking up to the point of comming off is, what am i going to hit while sliding and rolling down the road, and what is about to hit me, and neither do you have a say in it when your out of the seat and heading roadward.
dont crash
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This is precisely why you should never rely on the internet for advice.Super Dave wrote:Little advice...don't grab the front brake!! I still have a tendency to reach for it when I have to unexpectedly brake
This quote contradicts every qualified expert in the training business.
Practice emegency stops in a safe evironment (parking lot, deserted street) until it becomes second nature.
Trust me, you won't have time to plan your flying style if you do come off your bike.
Prevention is the key.
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Oh, how I hate this kind of post.
Okay.
Obviously you have never ridden or taken the MSF. I really hate this kind of post.
Now. That said. It is REALLY REALLY REALLY important to NOT think this way as a street rider. Its fine on dirt. But on the street, your utmost focus must always be to RIDE THE BIKE. Never consider 'bailing out.' You see, what often happens is that riders forget that a motorcycle has the tools to evade or STOP quickly enough to nearly ALWAYS avoid crashing.
The key is the RIDER. When you have in your head, "How to bail" then you occupy your mind with that, instead of "How to evade." A motorcycle has seveveral key advantages in crash avoidance: Light weight, means that ALL WHEEL braking is much more effective than a car. Two wheels, means that you can lean and swerve AROUND a suddenly stopped car or other obstacle. Light weight means greater acceleration thrust for getting out of someone's way fast.
Old timers riders have a mantra: No matter what happens, NEVER stop riding the bike. Physics will keep you upright and in a straight line, even after you've plowed THRU a deer and severely damaged the bike(I've seen the video). Practiced, HARD braking can stop you inches from the fender of that car - but you've got to stay on board to operate the bike.
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Obviously you have never ridden or taken the MSF. I really hate this kind of post.
Now. That said. It is REALLY REALLY REALLY important to NOT think this way as a street rider. Its fine on dirt. But on the street, your utmost focus must always be to RIDE THE BIKE. Never consider 'bailing out.' You see, what often happens is that riders forget that a motorcycle has the tools to evade or STOP quickly enough to nearly ALWAYS avoid crashing.
The key is the RIDER. When you have in your head, "How to bail" then you occupy your mind with that, instead of "How to evade." A motorcycle has seveveral key advantages in crash avoidance: Light weight, means that ALL WHEEL braking is much more effective than a car. Two wheels, means that you can lean and swerve AROUND a suddenly stopped car or other obstacle. Light weight means greater acceleration thrust for getting out of someone's way fast.
Old timers riders have a mantra: No matter what happens, NEVER stop riding the bike. Physics will keep you upright and in a straight line, even after you've plowed THRU a deer and severely damaged the bike(I've seen the video). Practiced, HARD braking can stop you inches from the fender of that car - but you've got to stay on board to operate the bike.
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