Want a motorcycle to save on high gas prices... Suggestions?

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Want a motorcycle to save on high gas prices... Suggestions?

#1 Unread post by amodoko » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Hi guys, I'm new to motorcycles (used to drive a suzuki gn400 for a summer, but I only rode it about 20 times since it was my Dad's) but would like to get one to save on gas. I just want a bike that can do at least 55 or 60mph (more is better, but I'll be willing to settle for something that only goes 55, would love if it could hit at least 65 though) and is a good cheap starter bike.

I saw a honda cb125s (1978) for cheap (only $450) and it says on wikipedia that it gets 100mpg, which is awesome. Are there any other motorcycles out there that are better quality or that get better than 100mpg? Thanks in advance for your help, I do appreciate it.

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#2 Unread post by jonnythan » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:56 pm

I think that by the time you get a bike, insurance, gear, register it, and maintain it, it'll be a long long time before you break even on the cost.
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#3 Unread post by Brackstone » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:01 pm

jonnythan wrote:I think that by the time you get a bike, insurance, gear, register it, and maintain it, it'll be a long long time before you break even on the cost.
I think that the way Gas prices are going that long long time away will be closer.

Not to mention it's better to start planning for that future now.
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#4 Unread post by jstark47 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:21 pm

You don't say where you live, but I've heard in some jurisdictions in the USA bikes under 250 cc are not legal for freeway use. (If someone knows whether this is true or just an urban legend, I'd like to know....) Assuming you stick with bikes at least 250cc, 70 mpg is a more realistic target for general mixed riding. In the sportbike style, the Kawasaki Ninja 250 is the classic choice, Hyosung also makes a 250cc sportbike. There are 250cc cruisers by Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Kymco, and Hyosung.
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#5 Unread post by Gunslinger » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:24 am

I don't think the 125's can hit 65 miles per hour. The 250's certainly will maintain that speed but I don't know of one that gets anywhere close to 100 MPG. Something like 65 or 70 MPG is probably more realistic if you ride conservatively. I would recommend starting out on a newer bike unless you enjoy wrenching more than riding.

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#6 Unread post by ChemicalTaste » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:15 am

125's can hit 75 max. Probably would be screaming and hitting red line, but they can do it. Unfortunatly, the fast 125's (like the cbr and yamaha r styles) are pretty expensive.

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#7 Unread post by sparsage » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:12 pm

What about a scooter? The next generation of scooters are a new breed. Great for learning and city riding. I get excellent mpg with mine- a 2005 Suzuki Burgman 400. It averages about 70 mpg, comfortably cruises at 70 mph on highway (it'll go 100), and it's almost maintenance free. Plus, believe it or not, it's a hell of a lot of fun to ride. Took it on solo road trip from Chicago, Il. to Knoxville, Tn. and it handled great on highways and twisties. I'm a returning rider (after 15 yrs) and it was perfect choice for me. Not the cheapest though, used cost- $5000. So if mpg is more important than the "cool factor" (and your wallet can handle it) you should check it out.

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#8 Unread post by Brackstone » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:19 pm

sparsage wrote:What about a scooter?
Getting a motorcycle to "Save on Gas" isn't usually just that.

Lots of people want to own motorcycles but nobody can ever justify it usually so this is another way to get around that process.

Will scooters get much more popular because of the gas prices? Yes absolutely. But most people who want to buy motorcycles to save on gas I don't think will end up with a scooter.
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#9 Unread post by sparsage » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:11 pm

You've got a good point. However, I was shopping for a lightweight cruiser, not a scooter, and would never have considered buying this bike if I hadn't ridden a friend's and been so impressed. But then again, I guess I'm not like "most people".

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#10 Unread post by Fast Eddy B » Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:37 pm

sparsage wrote:I guess I'm not like "most people".
ME :twisted: NEITHER!!

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#11 Unread post by SBK15 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:31 pm

First off.. Theres no F*ing way a CB125 gets 100mpg..its from 1978 ..old technology. i have a kawasaki eliminator 125..single cylinder..and it only gets 80MPG..

In 5th gear it'll do 65 but the throttle will be pinned..
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#12 Unread post by Mephza » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:26 pm

SBK15 wrote:First off.. Theres no F*ing way a CB125 gets 100mpg..its from 1978 ..old technology. i have a kawasaki eliminator 125..single cylinder..and it only gets 80MPG..

In 5th gear it'll do 65 but the throttle will be pinned..
First off, crazy donkey, he was talking about the new cbr125's. If you go check it will say 08.
Second, it does get 100, give or take a few mpg.

To the OP, how tall are you?
CBR125 is generally for shorter people, its more of a 5'5 bike rather than a 6'2 bike. If you get what I am saying?
The yzf125 is generally the bike people are buying that's 125cc's. It can hit a whopping 78 miles per hour; with a full grown adult. It doesn't scream going 70 either.
Also, the Yzf125 is for taller people, like me. 6'4; I will never get on a cbr125, but I could (un)?comfortably ride the yzf125.

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#13 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:57 pm

I've done a lot of work on attaining ROI on my motorcycle purchase. You have to be dedicated - ride it to work a large number of times before you can realize a significant savings.

First, figure out the difference in cost between driving to work and riding to work. Then divide all your costs totalled up by the daily savings and you'll get the number of days you have to ride to work in order to realize a savings.

Unless you have a very long commute or a really crappy car (mpg) you'll find it takes a long time before gas savings turns in to real savings - 2 to 3 years for most people.

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#14 Unread post by Funderbird » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:46 pm

Ca freeways, above 149cc is the legal motorcycle size.
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#15 Unread post by Dystopian » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:18 am

RhadamYgg wrote:I've done a lot of work on attaining ROI on my motorcycle purchase. You have to be dedicated - ride it to work a large number of times before you can realize a significant savings.

First, figure out the difference in cost between driving to work and riding to work. Then divide all your costs totalled up by the daily savings and you'll get the number of days you have to ride to work in order to realize a savings.

Unless you have a very long commute or a really crappy car (mpg) you'll find it takes a long time before gas savings turns in to real savings - 2 to 3 years for most people.

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Well, in my case, I drive a '99 Crown Victoria police interceptor (Woo!) and it gets 18-20 city mpg. I pay $180 a month for insurance.
My motorcycle gets around 60 (Listed) mpg and costs me at most $242 a year for insurance. In my case, the cost is significant.
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#16 Unread post by Scott58 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:31 am

My rebel gets in the 80's mpg on the interstate and has been doing so for almost 4 years. In mixed riding it averages 78mpg and strictly intown has never dropped below 68 mpg. If gas prices are an issue and you actually want something that qualifies as a motorcycle (legal for all roads). This is a tough act to beat. having said that however, if you inseam is greater then 32" your going to want minimum highway pegs and probably forward controls for optimum comfort.

"Unless you have a very long commute or a really crappy car (mpg) you'll find it takes a long time before gas savings turns in to real savings - 2 to 3 years for most people."

That's not really true either. My car is probably going to last over 20 years now with the offset useage of the Rebel. When you consider increased longevity of your other vehicles the savings is substantial.
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#17 Unread post by Gunslinger » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:12 am

My hat's off to anyone who is brave enough to take the Rebel out on the freeway. I know lots of people do it but I prefer something with a little more to give at the top end.

Mephza my myopic friend, the OP didn't say '08 he did say 1978.

Stick with the 250's if you want a good compromise between mileage and speed. Ninjas, Rebels, Viragos, Nighthawks are all good first bikes.

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#18 Unread post by Funderbird » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:34 am

250 rebel, good bike my nieghbor has one however, I wieghed 270 when I road his and it was a little slow. If you are a big guy, you might want to think about how you are going to ride it. Mostly freeway stick with something bigger.
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#19 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:48 pm

Dystopian wrote:
RhadamYgg wrote:I've done a lot of work on attaining ROI on my motorcycle purchase. You have to be dedicated - ride it to work a large number of times before you can realize a significant savings.

First, figure out the difference in cost between driving to work and riding to work. Then divide all your costs totalled up by the daily savings and you'll get the number of days you have to ride to work in order to realize a savings.

Unless you have a very long commute or a really crappy car (mpg) you'll find it takes a long time before gas savings turns in to real savings - 2 to 3 years for most people.

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Well, in my case, I drive a '99 Crown Victoria police interceptor (Woo!) and it gets 18-20 city mpg. I pay $180 a month for insurance.
My motorcycle gets around 60 (Listed) mpg and costs me at most $242 a year for insurance. In my case, the cost is significant.
Wow - it should be fairly easy for you to get a return on investing and riding a bike to work. Of course, the insurance savings won't net you anything unless you sold your car and didn't insure it - which I wouldn't recommend unless you lived in that magical place where you could ride to work everyday or had ball big enough to ride to work every day anyway.

But fuel savings alone - even with a moderate mile commute - should do well.

I always wanted one of those police interceptors. I've owned two Crown Vics. Nice smooth rides.

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#20 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:02 am

Scott58 wrote: "Unless you have a very long commute or a really crappy car (mpg) you'll find it takes a long time before gas savings turns in to real savings - 2 to 3 years for most people."

That's not really true either. My car is probably going to last over 20 years now with the offset useage of the Rebel. When you consider increased longevity of your other vehicles the savings is substantial.
Well, there are a lot of other things I'm not (and I don't think everyone considers) really considering in my calculations. Decreased depreciation on my car due to it having fewer miles is one of them. I've ridden in to work 22 days - and a savings of over 1500 miles on my car. Every 1000 miles less on my car reflects a different price on KBB.

But as the car gets older this change in value is less. Also, the difference per 1000 miles less on a car changes per 1000, it might be 66000 reduced to 65000 might make the car worth 100 more, but the jump from 65000 to 64000 might only get you 80 more in worth.

Of course, if I stretch my car for 20 years instead of my usual 10, then the savings really kick in for every year I don't buy a new car and do keep my current one.

Especially with the first three years of car insurance and the 5 years of car payments - that could be significant.

I'll have to wait until 2011 to find out if I stretch my 2001 accord beyond my usual 10 years and consider if this is due to motorcycle riding or not. I did in fact just bump over 66000 miles on the car.

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