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#1 Unread post by suzuki500 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:35 pm

hey forums, im new to biking and well i was riding in the streets earlier today...i wanted to turn so i went in the left turn stop light in the streets. there was nobody on anyside coming...so i waited for the light to turn green...and waited....well what are you supposed to do in that situation?
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#2 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:29 pm

Search around the forums - this topic comes up quite a bit.

Some recommend using your kick stand and locating the marks for the sensor in the road.

The thing that makes me most nervous on the road is sitting at a stop light. It is the only thing I consider as a true close call for me.

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#3 Unread post by Thumper » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:42 am

Honestly? I look around for cops, and if I don't see any or a good hiding place for one, when it's safe I just run the light. I figure if I've waited 3 cycles and no car comes up to trip the light for me, I'm good to go.

Most of the time a car comes up and takes care of it for me. But once I sat at a light waiting to turn, and there was a bike cop right across the freaking street and there was no other traffic. I tried everything--hitting my starter, putting my kickstand down. By then he knew I was frustrated and just waved me through. I'm pretty sure it was the same bike cop that didn't pull me over for doing 65-70 in a 40 when I was riding a Rebel. I think I like him.

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#4 Unread post by FlysWithEagles » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:47 am

Get off your bike....stop,drop, and roll like you were on fire(screaming helps) then run to the nearest light pole and roundhouse kick that three times...get back on your bike and continue waiting because in reality, some lights are just never going to change when there's no cars to help.

Seriously though, if it's safe enough and everything else fails...run the light.
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#5 Unread post by suzuki500 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:00 am

Thumper wrote:Honestly? I look around for cops, and if I don't see any or a good hiding place for one, when it's safe I just run the light. I figure if I've waited 3 cycles and no car comes up to trip the light for me, I'm good to go.

Most of the time a car comes up and takes care of it for me. But once I sat at a light waiting to turn, and there was a bike cop right across the freaking street and there was no other traffic. I tried everything--hitting my starter, putting my kickstand down. By then he knew I was frustrated and just waved me through. I'm pretty sure it was the same bike cop that didn't pull me over for doing 65-70 in a 40 when I was riding a Rebel. I think I like him.
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#6 Unread post by ofblong » Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:51 am

as I stated in about the other 20 threads I have read on this I have yet to have a light that wont change.
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#7 Unread post by FlysWithEagles » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 am

Come to my town. I can show you at least two that won't change. But, if I know I'm going to be riding late at night with minimal traffic, I avoid those lights so I rarely have the problem of lights not changing for me.
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#8 Unread post by ofblong » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:59 am

FlysWithEagles wrote:Come to my town. I can show you at least two that won't change. But, if I know I'm going to be riding late at night with minimal traffic, I avoid those lights so I rarely have the problem of lights not changing for me.
being an industrial mechanic I get calls all the time where I go out to them and what they say is the problem never happens so I just walk away without doing anything :laughing: .
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#9 Unread post by NewVABiker99 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:27 am

I'm usually not in any hurry to get to Point A to Point B, so I wait. And, I think I read somewhere that these light systems are set up to eventually trigger even if something isn't on the sensor. I figure I may miss a cycle or two, but I'm not going to be there forever.

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#10 Unread post by suzuki500 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:21 am

you know i hear that if you get like 2 neodynium magnets or whatever and put it beneath your bike on the frame or something then the magnetic powers will make the light sense you =D
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#11 Unread post by RhadamYgg » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:58 am

ofblong wrote:as I stated in about the other 20 threads I have read on this I have yet to have a light that wont change.
You've got the force... Although even I have only run in to one light that didn't change for me.

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#12 Unread post by Skier » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:37 am

As posted in a different thread:
Skier wrote:It doesn't matter how close the magnet is, it isn't doing anything for the sensor. If your large mass of motorcycle isn't tripping the light, a tiny amount of metal closer to the sensor isn't going to do much.
Passing a magnet over an induction loop will induce a little current in it, but it won't change the loop's actual inductance any more than a similar-sized lump of unmagnetised metal with the same conductivity would. It's change in inductance that causes the vehicle detector to trigger...
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#13 Unread post by FlysWithEagles » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:55 pm

ofblong wrote:
FlysWithEagles wrote:Come to my town. I can show you at least two that won't change. But, if I know I'm going to be riding late at night with minimal traffic, I avoid those lights so I rarely have the problem of lights not changing for me.
being an industrial mechanic I get calls all the time where I go out to them and what they say is the problem never happens so I just walk away without doing anything :laughing: .
I see. But like I said, come to my town and I can get you some work. :wink:
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#14 Unread post by Gunslinger » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:29 pm

I've posted in a previous thread with RhadamYgg about this also. Those magnets don't work, save your money. Another option is to turn right on red, then make a U-turn and go back the other way. Hopefully the light will be green on the way back :mrgreen: The few times that this has happened to me I give it a few minutes then I will run it.

I don't think there are many cops who would write a biker a ticket for some BS like that, and even fewer judges would enforce the citation.

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Re: darn stoplights....

#15 Unread post by SBK15 » Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:29 pm

suzuki500 wrote:hey forums, im new to biking and well i was riding in the streets earlier today...i wanted to turn so i went in the left turn stop light in the streets. there was nobody on anyside coming...so i waited for the light to turn green...and waited....well what are you supposed to do in that situation?
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#16 Unread post by Johnj » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:23 pm

ofblong wrote:being an industrial mechanic I get calls all the time where I go out to them and what they say is the problem never happens so I just walk away without doing anything :laughing: .
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#17 Unread post by sport302 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:05 am

When I first started riding this annoyed the heck out of me. So I did try the magnet thing myself. It has helped with some inductive loop lights but not all.

From what I have "heard", inductive loop lights have sensitivity settings. However, many are set higher or lower depending on how close they are to the adjacent lights and their inductive loops. By increasing the sensitivity of the inductive loops to detect vehicles such as motorcycles the inductive loops may start to interfer with each other. Therefore, some lights can not be set high enough to detect motorcycles. Hence the reason why some lights work and some do not.

However, I am no expert just what I have read and learned. I just make a right turn and take a different route if needed.
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#18 Unread post by SCgurl » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:54 am

Our state just passed a law that allows motorcyclists to treat a red light as if it were a stop sign after 2 minutes.

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/may ... nfor41243/

Now, if only the two I run into constantly would actually trip for cars, I'd be set :laughing: Yeah, a lot of these aren't set up right around here.
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#19 Unread post by R3sp4wN » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:31 pm

I, personally, take a route that is about 1/2 a mile out of my way just because the lights are WITH the flow of traffic. The total trip takes me about 9 minutes, when my regular route took closer to 15 minutes because of all the damn lights.

There are also some 'Green Light Magnets' that you can buy and install on your bike. I am not too sure how well they work, but due to the fact that I ride alot late at night, it may come in handy to purchase one of them.
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#20 Unread post by Skier » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:06 pm

R3sp4wN wrote:There are also some 'Green Light Magnets' that you can buy and install on your bike. I am not too sure how well they work, but due to the fact that I ride alot late at night, it may come in handy to purchase one of them.
I've managed to foresee this request and post why those don't work over two weeks ago. :)
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