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#1 Unread post by sarahh_00 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:27 pm

ok so I am looking for my very first bike. I know what I want and I'm so close to getting it. But I have a little problem. For some reason my husband thinks I am going to buy my bike and get freaked out the first time I ride. He thinks that something bad will happen and I wont ride any more. He thinks I should get a little 50cc scooter and try that first. I understand that he is a little nervous about me riding.
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#2 Unread post by mgdavis » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:23 am

Enroll in the local Motorcycle Safety Foundation course so you can get started in a controlled environment with professional instruction. Buy a full set of quality protective gear.

Does your husband ride?
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#3 Unread post by PacificShot327 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:31 am

Freaking out on a scooter can still deal plenty of damage. :-( They're not toys, just because it has a much smaller engine than your average motorcycle.

As mgdavis said above, take the MSF! That way you can get a much better feel for if you even really want to ride. A lot of places will allow you the option of riding on a scooter, but go with what YOU want - you'll be the one riding, after all, not your husband. He can't ride for you.

It's natural for him to be worried about you. My beloved rides, as well, but he worries every time I'm out on the road... even if I'm in my truck! :-)

Even if you decide to not go the scooter route, start out small! In the MSF, you'll learn on a little 250 - more than enough to get you started.

I haven't been riding long myself, but the above about the MSF is solid - I wouldn't ever condone getting started in riding without taking the MSF. I might be called a bit of a hypocrite, taking my first bike into consideration, but I also am a big supporter of starting out small. My next purchase will likely be a smaller bike than the one I have now - those just seem like they'd be a whole lot of fun, too! It's a lot easier to learn on a less powerful bike - your mistakes (you WILL make them. Riding is not natural to our bodies, so while you may end up being talented, you'll still make the occasional mistake) will be a lot easier to swallow on a smaller bike. A sensitive throttle and too much horsepower will be far too much for anyone starting out. Save yourself the time, trouble, and the hospital bills by starting on a low hp motorcycle. It'll be your first, not likely your last.

What else... yeah, gear. Don't skimp out on gear. Pay $500 now for decent gear... or $5000+ for new skin... Not a tough choice, in my opinion. The day I consider going out without all my gear on is the day I will stop riding.

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#4 Unread post by CaptCrashIdaho » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:11 pm

I meant to do that.

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#5 Unread post by ceemes » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:30 pm

CaptCrashIdaho wrote:MSF first, bike second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CtAqS1Kx7A
I'd say, Gear first, then MSF and then Bike.
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#6 Unread post by sarahh_00 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:13 pm

Well I have taken the motorcycle class and I have most of my gear. My husband said that it is going be alot different then the class with cars around.
So my next question what is it like the first time on the road?

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#7 Unread post by ceemes » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:32 pm

sarahh_00 wrote:Well I have taken the motorcycle class and I have most of my gear. My husband said that it is going be alot different then the class with cars around.
So my next question what is it like the first time on the road?
Terrifying, thrilling, frightening, exhilarating, scary, awesome, heart stopping, incredible.......sort of like the first time one has sex, only you keep your clothes on and it isn't as messy. :laughing:
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#8 Unread post by tymanthius » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:51 pm

What kind of bike are you looikng at? That might have something to do with his worry. Or he just might be a worrier. Some of us are. I am. Drives my g/f nuts.

But it's better that he cares than he doesn't. :)

If he doesn't ride, maybe have HIM take the MSF, so he can learn what it's all about. ;)
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#9 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:01 pm

How long ago did you take the class?

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#10 Unread post by Fiddler » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:16 pm

My first time on the road was in my neighborhood. Around the block, stopping at stop signs, negotiating turns. I think I did that for almost a week. Even getting up my sloped driveway, around the car, into my garage and turning my bike around to exit was a learning experience.

Eventually I planned my first route, all paved and rural. At nine miles, it is mostly straight lines with a 35mph limit and a couple of gentle curves. After a couple of right turns I end up on the I-35 service road with a 55mph speed limit. One very minor stop light. None of this in rush hour traffic. I did that for a couple of weeks.

Later I tackled in town traffic in a local college town ten miles down the road. Thick traffic, lots of stoplights, scads of young drivers, a couple of railroad tracks, and streets that look different on two wheels than they do on four. It's a bit of an adrenaline rush.

The weird thing is I never worried about any of this stuff on my scooter. My scooter stalled all the time at lights. I never flatfooted my scooter, but on a bike all of a sudden that mattered? I even low-sided the scoot on a huge oily patch at 30mph last fall, but it wasn't assumed that it was a big deal, cuz it was a scooter. Frankly, it was only when I bought a geared bike that all of the scary stories and dire "what if's" came out of the woodwork and everything became so much more important. But it was the same, except now with a bigger bike I can keep up with traffic. I even countersteered on the scoot, though I didn't know what it was called. Woo-hoo I scraped the floorboard! Freaked me out.

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#11 Unread post by SCgurl » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:27 pm

ceemes wrote:
sarahh_00 wrote:Well I have taken the motorcycle class and I have most of my gear. My husband said that it is going be alot different then the class with cars around.
So my next question what is it like the first time on the road?
Terrifying, thrilling, frightening, exhilarating, scary, awesome, heart stopping, incredible.......sort of like the first time one has sex, only you keep your clothes on and it isn't as messy. :laughing:
+1

The first time I got out on the main road, it was with a good friend of mine. He rode kind of as a blocker (without actually blocking traffic completely), just to ease my anxiety a bit so I could get adjusted to the sensory overload.

I put almost 250 miles on the bike in the next 2 days. And didn't sleep for almost a week. It was totally like having hot sex with a new partner. :laughing: And in a way, it still is every time I go for a ride :devil:
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#12 Unread post by NNYrider » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:47 pm

Sarah:

If you've taken the MSf course and passed you are ready to begin riding for real. Keep your head on straight, remember SEE, and go for it.

Do NOT buy a scooter. The controls are different. It will mess you up. Buy a bike. It does not have to be a large one, nor does it need to be expensive. If you shop around you should be able to find a 250 cc class bike (rebel, GZ250), three or four years old, 3000-6000 miles for under $1500. Buy it. Ride. In a year or two you can either sell it for nearly the same money and trade up, or just sell it.

If you want a new bike, look at the same bikes. Rebels, GZ250s, and teh Suzuki S40 (HIGHLY recommended). You can buy any of them new for under $4500.

The scooter thing does NOT make sense. If you get run over by a semi, it will not matter if you were on a 50cc pocket bike or a 1800 cc Goldwing. Little bikes are not "safer". I'd also wager that you may well liekly be quicker to give up riding on a little crappy 50 cc scooter than on a real bike. Better to have a real bike and use it, than to waste $ on junk....

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#13 Unread post by CaptCrashIdaho » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:25 pm

[quote="ceemes"
I'd say, Gear first, then MSF and then Bike.[/quote]

I always suggest MSF first because occassionly folks take the MSF, figure out they prefer being a passenger OR they really don't have the chops or aptitude and if you wait on gear til after the MSF, you've saved some dough.

As for Sarah00 I'd suggest riding with an experienced partner (husband maybe) and taking things a little at a time.
I meant to do that.

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#14 Unread post by sarahh_00 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:50 am

First of all I want to thank everyone for all the advice. It's been very helpful.
I want to buy a honda rebel 250. I was able to ride that in my motorcycle class and FELL IN LOVE!!! I took the class Sept 08. I do have a friend who rides and can't wait for me to get my bike.

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#15 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:43 am

sarahh_00 wrote:First of all I want to thank everyone for all the advice. It's been very helpful.
I want to buy a honda rebel 250. I was able to ride that in my motorcycle class and FELL IN LOVE!!! I took the class Sept 08. I do have a friend who rides and can't wait for me to get my bike.
Glad the Total Motorcycle community helped you out, really friendly bunch aren't they? :D

Congratulations on taking the MSF course and welcome to the exciting world of motorcycling!

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#16 Unread post by shane-o » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:51 am

sarahh_00 wrote:First of all I want to thank everyone for all the advice. It's been very helpful.
I want to buy a honda rebel 250. I was able to ride that in my motorcycle class and FELL IN LOVE!!! I took the class Sept 08. I do have a friend who rides and can't wait for me to get my bike.
everyone has to start somewhere, whatever ya do take ya time and enjoy ya self, the skills will come in time.


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#17 Unread post by phantom1100 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:11 pm

Tell him bikes today are lighter More easy to handle, 50cc to small 250-400cc not a bad size
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#18 Unread post by Zagnut » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:47 pm

SCgurl siad...
It was totally like having hot sex with a new partner. And in a way, it still is every time I go for a ride


We need to go riding sometime!...
Hell, we could even take the motorcycles out for a spin afterwards... :laughing:


ceemes said...
sort of like the first time one has sex, only you keep your clothes on and it isn't as messy.


lol... well that depends on how many bugs go splat on your jacket and visor.
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#19 Unread post by Mr. Invisible » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:58 pm

You might want to look at the Suzuki GZ250. That was the bike I took during the course and it was totally comfortable.

I tried sitting on a new rebel and found the seat was too narrow, and the bike is a lot smaller.

For about the same price, the GZ250 is more luxurious. If I hadn't already bought the Suzuki M50 I would have given the 250 a serious look.

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