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#1 Unread post by Greg . » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:39 pm

I know, probably not a big deal to veteran riders -- but I signed up for my MSF today. I'll be taking the course July 17, 18,19.

Pray for me. LOL :wink: ... or beter yet - pray for the instructors! :laughing:

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#2 Unread post by PacificShot327 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:35 pm

Of course it's a big deal - it's nice to see new riders starting out wisely and signing up for the course. Have fun and good luck!
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#3 Unread post by MTexile » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:35 pm

Good for you! Hope you do well in your class!
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#4 Unread post by djspring » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:30 pm

Good for you. This is the best way for a new rider to go - starting with the basics. You wll learn a lot.

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#5 Unread post by jaskc78 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:32 pm

Grats, Greg. You're gonna love it. It's actually a lot of fun riding on their course because you don't have to worry about any traffic or anything--you can just enjoy the ride and practice what they'll cover in the classroom.
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Re: Well, I'm signed up !!!

#6 Unread post by Velocity » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:46 am

Greg . wrote:I know, probably not a big deal to veteran riders -- but I signed up for my MSF today. I'll be taking the course July 17, 18,19.

Pray for me. LOL :wink: ... or beter yet - pray for the instructors! :laughing:
Good going, Greg.

I completed my BRC a week ago. I was completely inexperienced, and I passed the course. I started looking at motorcycles before the course, and am doing some more serious shopping now.

When I signed up, I had the option to get the Rider Manual in advance for a slight additional charge. You can also read it (but not print it out) online for free at the Motorcycle Safety Foundation web site. I would recommend that you either get the manual in advance, or read it online. You've got the time between now and the 17th; put it to good use. They cover a lot of material in the classroom in pretty quick order; give yourself the advantage by reading up now!

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#7 Unread post by Greg . » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:50 pm

Thanks, folks. And thanks a bunch, Velocity. I will do that!

Can you provide more details ( a link?) ? I've looked at the MSF web site and found this:

http://www.msf-usa.org/index_new.cfm?pa ... ive%20Tour

Is this the Rider's Manual you referenced? Thanks!
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#8 Unread post by Velocity » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:11 pm

Greg . wrote:Thanks, folks. And thanks a bunch, Velocity. I will do that!

Can you provide more details ( a link?) ? I've looked at the MSF web site and can't find the Rider's Manual you referenced. Thanks!
Greg:

You're welcome.

Did you try the clickable link at the bottom of my message? It should take you right to the non-printable PDF. Here it is again, spelled out in long form:

http://www.msf-usa.org/CurriculumMateri ... oprint.pdf

You should be able to find it on this page:

http://www.msf-usa.org/index_new.cfm?sp ... me=Library

Two more thoughts: they mentioned in my class to make sure to bring water, and that was a very good idea. You want to stay well-hydrated during your class, and you're going to be out on hot asphalt for hours. That leads to the related thing they didn't mention, and that's sunscreen. You might want to consider that as well.

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#9 Unread post by Greg . » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:33 pm

Thanks, Velocity. This is good stuff !

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#10 Unread post by dean owens » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:55 am

i'd look into what helmets they have that you can borrow. the harley dealership had those little brain bowls. and that's what i used. some guys had already bought their helmets and they wisely bought fullfaced helmets. but when most of what you're doing is standing around and slow maneuvers those fullfaced helmets get pretty hot. if they have brain bowl helmets to borrow i would use them.

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#11 Unread post by Greg . » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:14 pm

Thank you, dean, and thanks everyone for the advice.

I'm honestly not sure if this is going to be for me. I have always been interested and I THINK I'm going to like it, but to be honest, I am not sure yet. I also understand that we'll be in a "parking lot" learning and practicing skills at low speeds. So ... I am going to hold off on buying ANYTHING I don't have to. I plan on wearing leather work boots, thin leather gloves, jeans, and a heavy shirt or light jacket (maybe my leather jacket - but it should be HOT so I don't want to over do anything). They lend out helmets and motorcycles, so I'm OK there. When I do buy a helmet, it will be a full face. The Scorpion is on my list from my nephew and will definitely be considered if it fits right.

If I do decide to ride, I am usually in Pittsboro for the Northwood - Cedar Ridge HS baseball game in the spring. Maybe then? And by then, I should be an OK rider. Of course, you're not so far that I couldn't make a trip over every now and then, either. Thanks.

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#12 Unread post by Velocity » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:30 pm

Greg . wrote:Thank you, dean, and thanks everyone for the advice.

I'm honestly not sure if this is going to be for me. I have always been interested and I THINK I'm going to like it, but to be honest, I am not sure yet. I also understand that we'll be in a "parking lot" learning and practicing skills at low speeds. So ... I am going to hold off on buying ANYTHING I don't have to. I plan on wearing leather work boots, thin leather gloves, jeans, and a heavy shirt or light jacket (maybe my leather jacket - but it should be HOT so I don't want to over do anything). They lend out helmets and motorcycles, so I'm OK there. When I do buy a helmet, it will be a full face. The Scorpion is on my list from my nephew and will definitely be considered if it fits right.

If I do decide to ride, I am usually in Pittsboro for the Northwood - Cedar Ridge HS baseball game in the spring. Maybe then? And by then, I should be an OK rider. Of course, you're not so far that I couldn't make a trip over every now and then, either. Thanks.
That was my approach too, Greg, so I think it's a good one. :) I actually rode the first riding day of class with those cheap leather and fabric utility gloves. They were kind of clumsy, though, so on the way home after the first riding day, I stopped at the nearby megamart and picked up a pair of nice grippy utility gloves. They cost me $10, but I could feel the controls better on day 2. Your thin leather gloves should be fine as long as they have good grip and don't slip easily.

I rode with the course's full face helmet, and was fine. I just needed the sunscreen for the intervals between riding when we could take the helmets off.

I, too, was not sure whether riding was for me, so I was grateful for an opportunity like the BRC to find out without having to invest in a motorcycle and gear. The first time I tried countersteering, though, I think I got hooked hard. It was an unbelievably great feeling. I think the idea of not buying anything more than you need to is a good one. The book Proficient Motorcyling by David Hough seems to have a strong following, but I held off on buying that too until after I completed my course. Why invest in a book for an interest that I might find out that I didn't want to pursue after all?

And I followed the Generally Accepted Wisdom and waited until after my BRC to buy a motorcycle. I did a lot of shopping, so I had a very good idea of what was out there, at what price, and what the various merits of different bikes was, but I did not buy. One thing I reaffirmed in that waiting period is that there is a world full of desirable bikes, so you don't need to jump at the first good bike at a good price that you see. If you miss that one, there will be another one tomorrow.

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#13 Unread post by Greg . » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:23 pm

Velocity wrote:One thing I reaffirmed in that waiting period is that there is a world full of desirable bikes, so you don't need to jump at the first good bike at a good price that you see. If you miss that one, there will be another one tomorrow.
Thanks. And thanks for the confirmation. I've been "looking" for a few weeks now, but am in no hurry to buy. I have found that by waiting, I find out if I REALLY want that new _______ . :) Oh ... and I'm thinking that with fall coming, some folks might be interested in giving me a "real deal".

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#14 Unread post by El Conquistador » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:24 pm

I have to agree, it's a good idea to wait until after the BRC to buy. My desired engine size went down a few notches once I completed the course - way back in May! I finally settled on a Vulcan 500, which I picked up last Friday - WooHoo!

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#15 Unread post by jaskc78 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:28 pm

yeah, you definitely get screamin' hot deals near the generally accepted end of the riding season. if i still lived in Michigan, i'd buy motorcycles every fall just to sell them again in the spring. you can easily turn a grand on each bike that way, it's crazy.

another option is to buy a slightly beat-up starter bike for pretty cheap now and ride that around to get more familiar with the whole deal and then buy something bigger in the fall when everyone's looking to sell and the market's flooded. up to you, though, but just a thought.
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#16 Unread post by Brackstone » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:32 am

Greg . wrote:I know, probably not a big deal to veteran riders -- but I signed up for my MSF today. I'll be taking the course July 17, 18,19.

Pray for me. LOL :wink: ... or beter yet - pray for the instructors! :laughing:
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#17 Unread post by zeligman » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:57 pm

Hey Greg - +1 on taking the course first - I felt EXACTLY as you and velocity described - wasn't sure it was for me (as a matter of fact, I'm still not completely positive about the long term, but had so much fun that I am committed to exploring it!)

I'm calling this the first Act of my midlife 'crisis' proudly (I'm 41) and this is my first time on a bike.

I actually took a 1 hour lesson BEFORE signing up for the course - the lesson was 75, the course 300, so if i washed out, it cost me less.

i LOVED the lesson, signed up for the course that day, got a $50 discount, so it made my wallet happy too.

They loaned us 3/4 helmets, we rode honda nighthawk 250's and it ended up that we rode both course days in the rain - first day was miserable medium rain the whole time second day on and off, so got SOME dry time in the beginning.

Riding in the rain turned out to be GREAT - on the course it was a HUGE confidence booster and reinforcement of the traction and control dynamics from the class and the books.

A couple of students had already bought bikes, but had never ridden - and had bought BIG bikes - not sure how that's going to work out for them - they struggled a bit in class too.

I finally bought my bike this past weekend. I've spent the last four weeks getting all my safety gear - full helmet, armored leather, pants, gloves, the works - I'm too old to ride foolishly!

Good for you for doing it the right way - and if nothing else - it's an accomplishment to complete the course, and it can be fun too!

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#18 Unread post by Greg . » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:08 pm

Thanks folks. And .... Woooooo Hooooooo. The class starts tomorrow!!

Funny you should mention 'midlife crisis', zeligman. :D I'll be turning 48 soon. Been lifting heavy for a while, taking karate, etc .... so you can imagine what my wife thinks about MY 'midlife crisis', huh??? lol :D I told my boys I'm gonna be like the guy with the "walrus" mustache on Orange County Choppers !!!!!!!! hahahahahaaaaa Actually, I think a sport bike is more my style, with the full face helmet, body armor, etc ... I too am too old to ride foolishly (obviously, since I have a few years on you). ;)

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#19 Unread post by zeligman » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:33 pm

Greg . wrote:Thanks folks. And .... Woooooo Hooooooo. The class starts tomorrow!!

Funny you should mention 'midlife crisis', zeligman. :D I'll be turning 48 soon. Been lifting heavy for a while, taking karate, etc .... so you can imagine what my wife thinks about MY 'midlife crisis', huh??? lol :D I told my boys I'm gonna be like the guy with the "walrus" mustache on Orange County Choppers !!!!!!!! hahahahahaaaaa Actually, I think a sport bike is more my style, with the full face helmet, body armor, etc ... I too am too old to ride foolishly (obviously, since I have a few years on you). ;)
well, old man, you can buy me a beer!

Good luck in the course, and I hope you enjoy it as much as so many of us have :)

looking forward to swapping stories!

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#20 Unread post by ChickenLittle » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:18 pm

I just signed up for my class today too! I start on Sunday and am nervous! I have a V-Star 1100 that has been sitting in my garage for the last year and I need to ride not dust it! :oops:
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