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#21 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:31 pm

so how about for a passenger helmet ?
the lady at the store told me that most people come in and grab a medium, and then ifyour with your lady mamma (hah sorry ive been listening to steppenwolf latley) and her head is too small she can wear a baseball cap or something underneath.
obviously if your gonna have someone specific riding on the back you should get a proper helmet for them, but if this is a general passenger helmet what are your thoughts ?
The helmet MUST fit correctly to protect. You'll be setting yourself up for liability if you try the baseball cap thing. Would you really want that on your conscience if your passenger were seriously injured because of a poorly fitting "one-size-fits-all" helmet? What if it was your girlfriend/sister/cousin who ended up with brain damage, and YOU were uninjured?

Wait until you've got someone who you expect to regularly take pillion, then buy a helmet that fits THEM. It is just NOT worth the risk.

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#22 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Mon May 05, 2008 5:59 pm

short stop wrote:But in terms of the age of the helmet....would the 5-year rule apply to a helmet that has been mainly gathering dust in a closet? I have a an HJC full-faced helmet that I purchased in 2002...


What do you think? But first, use the Guide to make sure the fit really is correct (most folks buy a too big helmet).
Motorcycle Helmets should be retired/replaced EVERY five years, or at a maximum of seven years from date of manufacture (month/year usually imprinted on chinstrap or on label inside). . .
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#23 Unread post by cyclebiker » Fri May 09, 2008 11:57 am

short stop wrote:Kind of a late post, my apologies if this has been answered elsewhere.

But in terms of the age of the helmet....would the 5-year rule apply to a helmet that has been mainly gathering dust in a closet? I have a an HJC full-faced helmet that I purchased in 2002, and wore a few times that season before selling my moped (yea yea, laugh it up!). I'd like to hold on to it for when I purchase my bike, since it is a very decent, SNEL approved helmet.

Any thoughts?
Is there really a five year rule or is this just a way to get consumers to buy a new helmet every five years?
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#24 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Sat May 10, 2008 7:14 pm

cyclebiker wrote:Is there really a five year rule or is this just a way to get consumers to buy a new helmet every five years?
No. There isn't any law that says helmets MUST be replaced every 5 years. Or at all for that matter... BUT given that your helmet is probably the single most important piece of safety equipment. Five years seems like a pretty reasonable life expectancy.

Have you played football or gone rock climbing? Would you trust your gray matter in either of those sports, to a helmet that had been around more than 5 years? Most safety helmets are considered "single drop" items.

The compressed styrene layer is meant to break apart on impact - that's how it disperses impact energy and protects your brain from damage.

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#25 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:26 pm

Wind Rider wrote:I didn't know that helmets came in extra small. After I learned this I went in and order myself one. The small was moving around on my head. It was really bad on the highway.

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Not all brands have XS. Some actually have XXS and XXL. It pays to look around.

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#26 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:42 pm

mybiker wrote:I would like to add anyway buy a NEW unused motorcycle helmet with DOT (or better) rating. Do not buy a used or unknown helmet as this is your life you are entrusting to that piece of safety gear.
"...also added details that I have learned through experience in an effort to make it as helpful as possible.

Do NOT under any circumstances purchase for use, a USED helmet. Not "still in the box," not "only worn once," not "free with the bike." Hidden damage that even the previous owner is unaware of can kill you if you go down wearing that bargain helmet. Don't take the risk.

1. Do NOT look at prices first. Fit is most important. If Arai (generally the most expensive) fits, then that will provide the BEST protection, if an HJC (generally a less expensive make) fits, then THAT will provide the best protection..."
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#27 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:38 pm

ChemicalTaste wrote:What if you bought a helmet and find out that 3 hours later there was a slight hotspot in the tip of your head, and now you have a head ache?

You're supposed to wear a helmet for around half hour while still in the shop. This is somewhat silly to me, as virtually every helmet feels the same on my head. I was just lucky enough to find one that didn't have any hot spots on it. However, my friend's 400 dollar helmet has a hotspot on the top (according to him).

Since he shouldn't re-sell it, cant take it back to the dealer etc, I guess the trashcan is a good choice, correct? I cant personally examine it at the moment, but I don't think you can take the top padding off. You might be able to, but I wouldn't know if you could replace it either.
There are always folks who are willing to buy used helmets. I'd have to say, if a person feels the need to have a "back up helmet" - used is perhaps a decent option.

If your friend's helmet is really painful to wear, selling it is certainly an option. Another possibility is to do some "modifications" - I know of folks who have successfully compressed a hotpoint out of the helmet lining with the bowl of a kitchen ladle or spoon. This is probably only a good idea if a small "adjustment" is necessary.

If "virtually every helmet feels the same on my head" for you, I'd have to say you're probably not buying a snug enough fitting helmet.

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#28 Unread post by blues2cruise » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:40 am

BlackCowboyRider wrote:Should I order a helmet on line or go into a store and try them on?
Go and try on as many helmets as you can.....you need to know what will fit.....once you find the perfect fit, buy it. Don't settle for a maybe.....
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#29 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:57 pm

BlackCowboyRider wrote:Should I order a helmet on line or go into a store and try them on?
Go and try on helmets. Buy the one that fits. Don't spend big bucks on graphics. Just get what fits. Don't screw the shop by using their products for try ons and then order online.

They may have gone out of business the next time you need gear.

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#30 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:44 pm

Greg . wrote:So, as we learned, FIT is the most important thing.

I'm wondering about "backup helmets" for folks who want a ride. Is it then safe to take them using a "backup helmet" that may not fit them AT ALL?
No. If the helmet doesn't fit, it is as bad as wearing none at all.

Helmet's are expensive, and it would be kinda ridiculous to attempt having a size range of "loaner" helmets for potential guests. One way that I deflected those who asked for a ride was to tell them, "If you've got your own helmet." Worked every time.

Anyhow, a newer rider should refrain from taking passengers until they're VERY adept at handling their motorcycle, as well as dealing with typical traffic/road situations.

When you feel ready, then consider getting a helmet (and gear) for your most likely pillion (passenger).

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#31 Unread post by JM0111 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:16 am

i have not went through and read all of the post on this topic, but i have recently started to ride, the one big thing i have noticed with the helmet, mine is a sliver to big and wind gets trapped under ther helmet and puts pressure on it, more annoying than anything but as a new rider we dont need anymore distractions. I of Course am buying a new helmet and checking them all out for i dont want this same problem again, just figured i would share.

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#32 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:55 pm

JM0111 wrote:i have not went through and read all of the post on this topic, but i have recently started to ride, the one big thing i have noticed with the helmet, mine is a sliver to big and wind gets trapped under ther helmet and puts pressure on it, more annoying than anything but as a new rider we dont need anymore distractions. I of Course am buying a new helmet and checking them all out for i dont want this same problem again, just figured i would share.
I just went through this thread and pared off the redundant and "fluff" posts. I left the additional queries, "when to replace" "what size to have for passengers" "where to buy" etc.

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#33 Unread post by pender1 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:25 pm

Just curious if there are any brands that should be avoided. Every industry has "that" brand that no one should buy but people still do. Would be good info for us new guys. I'm shopping for my first helmet now, so any info is good info.

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#34 Unread post by Anant » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:47 am

Your guidelines are very helpful. A proper fitting motorcycle helmet can significantly reduce the risk of serious injury or death resulting from a head impact during an accident. When you buy helmet then follow some Guidelines :
1. GET MEASURED
2. TRY IT ON
3. CHECK THE FIT
4. WILL IT STAY ON?

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#35 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Thu May 23, 2013 7:10 pm

pender1 wrote:Just curious if there are any brands that should be avoided. Every industry has "that" brand that no one should buy but people still do. Would be good info for us new guys. I'm shopping for my first helmet now, so any info is good info.
"That" brand wouldn't be in business for long, or they're in it for fast cash with no ethics.

Buy a recognized brand of helmet. The "big names" (Arai, Shoei, HJC, Scorpion, etc. etc.), have their reputations to uphold. They are in the business of making/selling safety equipment and aren't going to sell a product that could fail. Keep that in mind.

In the US it is up to the manufacturer to meet the safety standard set by the DOT. The DOT only has a budget to test 40 helmets per year. If you buy "Joe's helmet" and it fails in a crash, resulting in your death/disability, chances are that Joe's Helmet Manufacturing Company will have closed shop. Leaving you holding the bag.
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#36 Unread post by bryan20 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:23 am

Thanks for the heads up!I'll be using the fullface/half helmet illustration you've provided since im planning buying. So uhm, wanted to ask what brands should i look for that are considered the most reliable and trustworthy?
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#37 Unread post by Johnj » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:24 pm

Arai, Bell, HJC, Shoei, Scorpion
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#38 Unread post by Lion_Lady » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:52 pm

bryan20 wrote:Thanks for the heads up!I'll be using the fullface/half helmet illustration you've provided since im planning buying. So uhm, wanted to ask what brands should i look for that are considered the most reliable and trustworthy?
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The brand that fits you (and that you've heard of/seen ads for in magazines, etc.) - Arai, Bell, HJC, KBC, Nolan, Suomy, Shoei, Shark, Scorpion, Schuberth - I've probably missed a couple, but these are the "biggies."

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#39 Unread post by Jamers! » Tue May 05, 2015 7:07 pm

Thank you Pam! Read this today before i went out and tried on different lids and it was nice to have something to reference beyond what the salesmen were saying!!

Got a good fit and am sitting here with it on my head and a goofy smile on. Good thing nobody can see!!
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#40 Unread post by Kage909 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:35 am

This is an excellent and very well organized guide :thumbsup:
I got my full face helm from rev-zilla. I sized up with a measurement tape and I fit between the sm and med. (closer to the med) So I got the medium. It is full faced DOT, and SNELL 2015 approved. brand new not no used junk :pinch: As far as storing it I keep it in my room its 65ish during winter 75ish during summer. Are those good storage conditions?
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http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/scor ... sin-helmet.

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