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#1 Unread post by Kage909 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:47 pm

Ok besides a helmet (required by law for new bikers in the U.S.) :USA: . I was wondering would would be sufficient gear for riding. I don't plan on racing with my bike (It's a 99 Vulcan 500) I am mostly going to be using it for the occasional commute to show off, and go on a ride with Friends. I have a DOT and SNELL 2015 approved full face helm, Icon striker CE vest, armored bilt gloves, and a good solid pair of boots. Will that be sufficient gear to ride in for a new biker? :motorcycle: (P.S. I'll post pics later)

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#2 Unread post by GS_in_CO » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:17 pm

You might want to include some pants in the list. At least don't ride in shorts.

Many people ride in jeans (me included) but recognize that they provide nearly no protection against crashes.
When I go out for an all-day ride I wear leather riding pants with hip and knee pads.

Of course it's all probabilities. If you aren't going to crash, you don't need any of it. But if you ARE going to crash- how much of it will you need?


I highly recommend earplugs as the wind noise against a helmet can be loud enough to damage hearing.
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#3 Unread post by jstark47 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:14 pm

GS_in_CO wrote:Of course it's all probabilities. If you aren't going to crash, you don't need any of it. But if you ARE going to crash- how much of it will you need?
What GS said. What's protecting your arms should you go down? What about your legs? How much skin are you prepared to lose?

Don't mean to be unpleasant, but nobody plans to crash. That's why they're called "accidents". Nobody plans to have an idiot car driver suddenly turn left in front of them. Nobody plans to come around a blind corner and find gravel or oil in the road.

I was backing my bike out of the driveway on Sunday, for about the 14,000th time, and almost dumped it (for the first time ever) 'cause I wasn't paying attention. The bike would have been scratched up, but my leg that might have gotten caught underneath would have been protected because I was ATGATT.

Dress for the crash, not for the ride.
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#4 Unread post by GS_in_CO » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:24 pm

jstark47 wrote: What's protecting your arms should you go down? What about your legs? How much skin are you prepared to lose?


Dress for the crash, not for the ride.
I don't know what a CE vest is but sort of assumed it was kind of a jacket. If it's not a jacket, then a jacket with elbow and shoulder protection is needed. Unless you don't need your arms to work right for the rest of your life.

When thinking of protective clothing I think of fighter pilots waddling out to their airplanes baking in the sun while wearing 50lb of survival gear in nomex flame resistant coveralls wearing heavy boots and putting on gloves and helmet before starting engines. They aren't planning to crash either but they are about as prepared for it as they can be. I can do the same. In fact, my chances of being in a motorcycle crash are greater than their chance of being in an aircraft accident. I'll put up with the discomfort while riding so I don't have as much permanent damage later if something bad happens.

I've been riding since 1979. Haven't gone down in the street yet. But it could happen.
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#5 Unread post by Kage909 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:37 am

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jstark47 wrote: What's protecting your arms should you go down? What about your legs? How much skin are you prepared to lose?


Dress for the crash, not for the ride.
I don't know what a CE vest is but sort of assumed it was kind of a jacket. If it's not a jacket, then a jacket with elbow and shoulder protection is needed. Unless you don't need your arms to work right for the rest of your life :clap: .
CE Vest/Field Armor, here it is. :? http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/icon ... ryker-vest

I ALSO wear a Leather Jacket as well. Next time I get paid I'll get elbow pads and use those also if it's too hot for the jacket. :|

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#6 Unread post by GS_in_CO » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:45 am

If the vest were ballistic armor it could be dual-use :-) Looks like a good idea. But hands, elbows and knees hit the ground first most of the time (as I understand it).

You're covering more bases than many so you'll do fine. Just don't crash.
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#7 Unread post by blues2cruise » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:17 pm

Aside from the other obvious reasons mentioned above.... to wear long sleeved ballistic jackets with armour and full pants with knee pads...

Getting hit by a bee at highway speed hurts like hell. :mrgreen:
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#8 Unread post by Kage909 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:24 pm

blues2cruise wrote:Aside from the other obvious reasons mentioned above.... to wear long sleeved ballistic jackets with armour and full pants with knee pads...

Getting hit by a bee at highway speed hurts like hell. :mrgreen:
Lol A bee? :blink:

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#9 Unread post by jstark47 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:46 pm

Kage909 wrote:
blues2cruise wrote:Aside from the other obvious reasons mentioned above.... to wear long sleeved ballistic jackets with armour and full pants with knee pads...

Getting hit by a bee at highway speed hurts like hell. :mrgreen:
Lol A bee? :blink:
Bee, june bug, any large flying insect. You'd be surprised what they feel like at 60mph. The impact will raise a welt on unprotected skin. And there's small objects kicked up by cars like stones, etc.
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#10 Unread post by Grey Thumper » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:26 pm

jstark47 wrote:Bee, june bug, any large flying insect. You'd be surprised what they feel like at 60mph. The impact will raise a welt on unprotected skin. And there's small objects kicked up by cars like stones, etc.
+1 "Dress for the crash" does have a point, but all this stuff also protects you in everyday riding, everything from helmets minimizing hearing damage, to jackets protecting you from sun, wind, rain, the works. I've been hit by all sorts of weird tiny little things, like jstark47 mentions, which could've potentially hurt like hell. The fact that I was protected also could've prevented a crash, you never know.
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#11 Unread post by GS_in_CO » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:35 pm

Kage909 wrote: Lol A bee? :blink:
Yop a Bee - I hit the east end of a westbound bee with my bare neck one time. Not only a ballistic hit but a sting resulted.

Took a June bug on the helmet once at 55 mph - thought it was a rock!
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#12 Unread post by ceemes » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:36 pm

The most important bit of gear? Your head, or rather the gooey gray matter in cased in your skull. You could have all the protective gear going and still render it useless if you are not using your head and are riding like an idiot or not paying attention to your environment aka situational awareness. Your best protective gear is your head, ride only when sober, clear headed, calm, rational and sanely....do that and when the unexpected happens, all the other gear will have a better chance at doing their job, namely saving your butt and skin......ATGATT begins with thinking.
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#13 Unread post by ceemes » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:46 pm

GS_in_CO wrote:
Kage909 wrote: Lol A bee? :blink:
Yop a Bee - I hit the east end of a westbound bee with my bare neck one time. Not only a ballistic hit but a sting resulted.

Took a June bug on the helmet once at 55 mph - thought it was a rock!
Took a bee hit on the lower eye lid. Was riding around 50 KHP (30 MPH) during the summer with my visor up. Bee struck my sunglasses, its tail swung around and stung me on the lower eye lid....did one of the fastest emergency stop and helmet removals in my life.....
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#14 Unread post by blues2cruise » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:50 am

And for those that are allergic to wasp stings....

a friend was riding behind me...I lost sight of him on a slow winding road....after a few minutes I turned around and went back to see if there was a problem. He had been stung by a wasp...and was sitting on his bike at the side of the road....turned out he was allergic...Good thing I knew where the hospital was. He had about ten more minutes before his throat started to close.

He now always covers all his skin.
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#15 Unread post by Kage909 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:36 pm

ceemes wrote:The most important bit of gear? Your head, or rather the gooey gray matter in cased in your skull. You could have all the protective gear going and still render it useless if you are not using your head and are riding like an idiot or not paying attention to your environment aka situational awareness. Your best protective gear is your head, ride only when sober, clear headed, calm, rational and sanely....do that and when the unexpected happens, all the other gear will have a better chance at doing their job, namely saving your butt and skin......ATGATT begins with thinking.
Well obviously I am going to wear a helmet :kicking: The law states I have to for at least 1 full year after getting my license, not only that I never ride w/o one. I was basically wondering what other gear is just as important. :littlebike3:

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#16 Unread post by jstark47 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:27 pm

Kage909 wrote:I was basically wondering what other gear is just as important.
All of it. If you have any further doubts, google Brittany Morrow. Check out her story.
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#17 Unread post by Hanson » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:30 am

1st gear is more important than then the rest, especially when starting uphill.

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#18 Unread post by jstark47 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:28 pm

Hanson wrote:1st gear is more important than then the rest, especially when starting uphill.
**groan!!** :tomato:
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#19 Unread post by Motolover » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:24 am

in our country wearing of a helmet is required by law

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#20 Unread post by Jamers! » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:51 pm

I know everyone has had their say on this.


but i heard something today that i just LOVED that works well here.


"ok, tell me how you are going to crash and i can tell you what gear you need."
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