DROPPED MY BIKE!

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DROPPED MY BIKE!

#1 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:15 pm

god damn :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

1st off, i just got insurance last night, and my crazy donkey only got liability cause i didn't think i'd drop it.

liability(w/ anti-insured motorist) =d $600
full coeverage =d $2200

...cheapest i found, checked eith like 50 companies.

this morning i went and i bought a pair of boots (pretty heavy)....i think that's what caused the drop.

i was only downhill, not too fast but i was still in 3rd gear w/ my ex500. i got to the bottom of the hill, came to a stop sign, there was a lot of small puddles....i noticed i was going too fast, so i pushed a little harder on the front brakes.....and outta nowhere i somehow the bike fell over and pushed me to the side and then forward like 7 feet in front of it.....luckily i had my gear on, so i was sliding on my hands...i got a couple of holes through my gloves. .......my guess it the back wheel locked...am i right? and i think it was because of the frikkin heavy "O Ring" boots that were on em. (i ofcourse didn't realizie it at the time)......

i'm still trying to figure out what the hell happened......any ideas?

i don't know the right 'terms' but i'll try my best......the sidelights fell off(yellow blinkers), the left frame(the one where it says "ninja" & "500R" on it).....the muffler got scrached up and a lot of other small scratches everywhere.

took it to a kawasaki dealer.

he asked me how long the bike was on the ground for and i said 5-10 seconds....(i picked it up as soon as i could)....he turned it on and said it sounds like there is something like with i dont remember (something that makes sparks) thoughi rode it around for awhile and it was fine.

he said that he fixed but that one had the whole left side messed up....he said it cost $3,700 !!!!! i bought my bike for $4,000.

so ya any advice on what might have happened & what i should do would be appreciated

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#2 Unread post by Shiv » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:38 pm

You may have had the front wheel turn a bit and it go down that way.

That's what happend in my MSF. Somehow the bike got away from me and I was jamming on the front brake (my first instinct, I had forgotten completely about the back brake at that point) and it stopped me, but the front wheel turned quite a bit and down it went. A lesson well learnt I say.

I was only going about 10 or 15 so I got it to a complete stop but I could see the same thing happening in your case.

There's a term for it, highsiding I think.



But regardless that's my guess as to what happend. Your back brake could have locked up. Did you hear squealing? If not that's probably not the case.

But yah if your back brake did lock up then all the pressure would have been transferred to your front wheel (from what I understand, mind you.) since your back wheel wouldn't have much grab on the road. Handle bars twist to the side and down you go.


That's my guess. Other more knowledgeable riders may have a better one for you.
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#3 Unread post by gumby191 » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:49 pm

Don't worry man your not alone, it's only a matter of time before 90% of riders drop a bike at some point in their life. I've been there and done that so I know how you feel. The important thing is that you were able to walk away from it.

Keep your eye on ebay to replace your damaged parts. You would have to be insane to through down over $3000 into a $4000 bike. I see ninja body parts go for dirt cheap all the time on ebay, so you can't go wrong that way.

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#4 Unread post by mydlyfkryzis » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:01 am

Might of been a painted crosswalk. The paint is quite slippery when wet. If the front wheel locked, you will go down quickly. Belive me, I know! 8)
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#5 Unread post by sickchilly » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:03 am

When you get heavy on the front brake, you better make damn sure you keep the bars straight and keep the bike upright. Otherwise, physics will be against you. That bike will want to go down and it will want to go down in the direction of lean or turn.

If you have to do a rapid stop, I've found it's better to use both brakes with a heavy bias towards the front brake but as you get close to 5-10 mph, ease up on the front brake and use a bit more back brake. This will give you a bit more control as you shift a bit of weight off the front wheel.
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#6 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:17 am

this just like messed up my whole day...you know?....the feeling sucks....

like gumby said, i didn't get scratch on me and that's all i guess matters.

and i looked on ebay...just found a buncha levers(clutch, brakes).....the guy's gonna do an inspection and give me an estimate tomorrow morning...i hope its not toomuch.

you know how for cars the dealer's charge alot more to fix? is it the same for bikes?

i also heard something about after market parts, they're alot cheaper i've heard...are they any good?

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#7 Unread post by Sev » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:42 am

I'd check e-bay for bits and pieces. And a couple of scratches will add character to your bike. You aren't required to restore everything to 100% perfect so I wouldn't sweat small stuff like a couple of scratches.

You may want to take it to another Kawi dealership, usually repairs that expensive mean you have a trashed bike, not a dropped one.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#8 Unread post by ronboskz650sr » Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:56 am

There's always the naked streetfighter look! Very cool. 8)
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#9 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:26 am

ronboskz650sr wrote:There's always the naked streetfighter look! Very cool. 8)
lol
Sevulturus wrote: usually repairs that expensive mean you have a trashed bike, not a dropped one.
the only thing i need is the left blinker and the left side cover...which i hopefully doubt will cost more than $150. the only thing i'm worried about is if anything happened to the engine...you know the "technical stuff".........he asked me gow long it was down on the ground for before i picked it up. does that really make a difference?

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#10 Unread post by Shiv » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:51 am

I can't imagine why it would make a difference.

Sounds to me that he's just making up excuses to get your money.
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#11 Unread post by sapaul » Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:39 am

Being a Trials rider for many years, we learn to use front and back brakes independantly for different obstacles, bringing that knowledge onto the tar has helped me a great deal. I have demonstrated to people, slamming on the back brake at speed on a road bike, locking the rear wheel and the bike still going straight. On my trials bike, the front brake slammed on would either, do a stoppie if I was straight, or, if the wheel was even slightly turned, down you would go. You can control a rear wheel slide, but it is very difficult to keep the bars straight on a front wheel slide. Yes you should use the 70/30 principal under normal conditions, but in panic mode the rear is often better to use. If you have to slam it on, slam on the rear.
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#12 Unread post by 9000white » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:25 am

this is the reason that we senile senior citizens recommend a good used bike to learn on.
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#13 Unread post by ronboskz650sr » Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:27 am

Shiv wrote:I can't imagine why it would make a difference.

Sounds to me that he's just making up excuses to get your money.
I agree. Change the oil in case the cylinders flooded from the float bowls being tipped on their sides, and ride it. Take off the oil filler cap and sniff hard..might smell gassy. Just change it to be safe.
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#14 Unread post by Vit0r » Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:23 am

$3700??? Pass. You can buy a new 250R with that money or a great used bike. He's just yanking your chain. Unless I know the mechanic working on my vehicle I never ever trust one working in a shop. Though this isn't about motorcycles I once went in for a normal oil change and the guy said to come back soon because there was something wrong, odd since I brought it in perfectly fine. Then the car was acting funky and when I checked for myself the crumb bastid had loosened my screws on purpose so that I'd comeback. After that, I vowed to never again trust anyone to work on my car but my family and myself. I doubt you'll be planning to keep that 500 for the long run and would be looking to move up but I still feel your pain since you bought new and your bike probably looks like the Batman villain Two-face right about now.

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#15 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:22 pm

well ya, this is my learning bike.......but crashing it after less than a week still sucks.

i just dropped it off at the dealer right now, today is saturday, they're closed on sunday & monday, so he told me to pick it up on wednsday.......i paid $95 for a full inspection....all around & engine.....this other shop would've done it all for $50 but i thought to myself, its better to take it to the dealer.

anyways, i hope it doesn't cost much.

and ronboskz650sr, when i turn it on, it smells like someone just emptied a big bucket of gas over my head, i told them that too, they said the same thing you said.....hopefully that won't cost much either.

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#16 Unread post by basshole » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:35 pm

sounds more like a crash than a drop. how fast were you going?
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#17 Unread post by jmillheiser » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:27 pm

What you did was a lowside. you locked up the front wheel and down you went.

Good to hear your ok.

I would suggest changing the oil asap. then decide how much of the bodywork you want to fix.

And get some frame sliders (might have saved you some damaged plastic).

Oh and lowsides suck (I did the same thing you did at my MSF course) but they are better than highsides (this involves getting launched off the bike).

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#18 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:17 am

basshole wrote:sounds more like a crash than a drop. how fast were you going?
going downhill, maybe 30-45..........at the time of crash, maybe 7-12
jmillheiser wrote:What you did was a lowside. you locked up the front wheel and down you went.
what are frame sliders?

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#19 Unread post by Shiv » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:55 am

I'm not 100% on this but i believe they're like foot pegs and jut from the fairings a bit so that the bike slides on the pegs instead of the fairing.

Thus the pegs get damaged and not the fairing.


Now I'm not 100% like I said but it makes sense.
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#20 Unread post by Dirtytoes » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:41 am

Shiv wrote:I'm not 100% on this but i believe they're like foot pegs and jut from the fairings a bit so that the bike slides on the pegs instead of the fairing.

Thus the pegs get damaged and not the fairing.


Now I'm not 100% like I said but it makes sense.
it makes sense & i think you're right, i did a google image search and came up with these:

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