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#421 Unread post by VermilionX » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:41 pm

some pics my friend took.

these are from the tight hairpin before the start/finish.

too bad this racetrak is also right handers mostly. im a little better at turning left. :lol:

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#422 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:59 pm

11/11/06

joined some guys from teh SCS forums...

here's a short clip.

that's luke... he's actually faster than me but that's not his bike so he'e not familiar w/ it and he probably doesn't wanna push it too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYMe-87qmA8
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#423 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:39 pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:42 pm
Why do you only ever post photos of the left side of your tyre?


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too bad this racetrak is also right handers mostly. im a little better at turning left

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Interesting vid. How about more shots of you riding?

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#424 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:55 pm

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Interesting vid. How about more shots of you riding?
im still waiting for hypercycle's pics from the trackday.

there should be some from my off-roading sessions. LOL! :laughing:


and my right chicken strips is just a tad slightly more than the left.
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#425 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:03 pm

Have you thought about why you don't push harder on the right to go right? I had a brainfart here that has got me thinking, since I ride one handed and do all the pushing and pulling on the bar AND throttle control at the same time, it takes a lot of concentration and fine motor control to input a heavy gross motor function (pulling/pushing the bars with arms and body) and at the same time delicately input throttle at the same point of force on the bar.

Anyway, just thinking outloud, simply put, you might just be a little hesitant or subconciously timid on that right handle bar because its your throttle hand. Your thoughts?

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#426 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:07 pm

Shorts wrote:Have you thought about why you don't push harder on the right to go right?
oh yeah... it's bec almost all the right handers are blind corners.
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#427 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:34 pm

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Shorts wrote:Have you thought about why you don't push harder on the right to go right?
oh yeah... it's bec almost all the right handers are blind corners.
Every right turn you ever make while out on a day of riding is blind?? Verm...

Now, aside from track day, again, I'm asking you the same question. Forget the blind curves. What about the ones that aren't? Are your right hander turns still not as developed as your left?

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#428 Unread post by Mintbread » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:15 pm

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Every right turn you ever make while out on a day of riding is blind??
It is easier to blame something else.
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#429 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:17 pm

Shorts wrote: Every right turn you ever make while out on a day of riding is blind?? Verm...

Now, aside from track day, again, I'm asking you the same question. Forget the blind curves. What about the ones that aren't? Are your right hander turns still not as developed as your left?
yeah... almost all the right handers in the canyons are blind.

im just saying i got more confidence turning right since i can see the path, well mostly anyway. basically, im getting better practice turning left compared to right turns.

and like i said... there's only a minor difference in my chicken strips, right is just a little more.
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#430 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:25 pm

Verm again TAKE THE BLIND CURVES OUT OF THE EQUATION. Answer that or Mintbread's got you pegged, "Its easier to blame something else".

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#431 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:30 pm

Shorts wrote:Verm again TAKE THE BLIND CURVES OUT OF THE EQUATION. Answer that or Mintbread's got you pegged, "Its easier to blame something else".
i just answered it.

im getting better practice turning left. so that's why im better at turning left.
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#432 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:52 pm

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Shorts wrote:Verm again TAKE THE BLIND CURVES OUT OF THE EQUATION. Answer that or Mintbread's got you pegged, "Its easier to blame something else".
i just answered it.

im getting better practice turning left. so that's why im better at turning left.
....so then complete the thought: I'm getting better practice at turning left. so that's why I'm better at turning left...._____________________________.

The answer is:Then if I want to get better at turning right, I should go practice more turns going right. :light:


So, go practice more on your right turns...and no verm, not in the stupid canyons. There's more to riding than just "canyons" (geez, you think your area is the only place in the world that has mountains, valleys and windy roads) :frusty:


So how about you go to a parking lot and grind out some hard right handers. I'm recalling my repressed memory of ERC...we did a lot of hard leaning curves in the lot, just to see how far to get the bike. Let me tell you, it went pretty damn far, until the pegs chimed in :shock:

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#433 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:55 pm

Aww heck, let me just complete another thought, why don't you go take an ERC?????????? While I trashed the heck out of my instructors when it was all said and done, the cornering drills we cranked out were to the bike's limit. It made a heck of a difference afterwards in feeling the bike and being confident in "normal" riding conditions in the curves.

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#434 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:56 pm

Shorts wrote: So how about you go to a parking lot and grind out some hard right handers. I'm recalling my repressed memory of ERC...we did a lot of hard leaning curves in the lot, just to see how far to get the bike. Let me tell you, it went pretty damn far, until the pegs chimed in :shock:
yeah, i do plan to hit up a local parking lot some time.

remember the PLP? i think i'll join another one. i got some good right hander practice last time.
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#435 Unread post by jstark47 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:56 pm

Shorts wrote:So how about you go to a parking lot and grind out some hard right handers. I'm recalling my repressed memory of ERC...we did a lot of hard leaning curves in the lot, just to see how far to get the bike. Let me tell you, it went pretty damn far, until the pegs chimed in :shock:
Yeah, but grinding pegs on your husband's Vulcan cruiser is a little different than touching down a peg on a sportbike like Verm's gixxer.

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#436 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:58 pm

Shorts wrote:Aww heck, let me just complete another thought, why don't you go take an ERC?????????? While I trashed the heck out of my instructors when it was all said and done, the cornering drills we cranked out were to the bike's limit. It made a heck of a difference afterwards in feeling the bike and being confident in "normal" riding conditions in the curves.
i can have something like the ERC here. http://skillzday.com/

and i the good thing is i don't have to pay $250.
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#437 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:00 pm

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(omigod...... I'm defending Verm!!! :shock: )
thanks.

and yeah, my pegs are set to the highest and furthest spot.

sportbike pegs are higher than cruisers. and i have mine set to the highest.
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#438 Unread post by Shorts » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:07 pm

jstark47 wrote:
Shorts wrote:So how about you go to a parking lot and grind out some hard right handers. I'm recalling my repressed memory of ERC...we did a lot of hard leaning curves in the lot, just to see how far to get the bike. Let me tell you, it went pretty damn far, until the pegs chimed in :shock:
Yeah, but grinding pegs on your husband's Vulcan cruiser is a little different than touching down a peg on a sportbike like Verm's gixxer.

(omigod...... I'm defending Verm!!! :shock: )
lol

I'm certainly not implying Verm try to scrape his pegs. I was intending that he go out and cut the bike as hard as he can until he reaches the limit of 1) traction or 2) parts on the bike. I guess 3) would be comfort zone.

In our case, the pegs stopped us from leaning any further into the curve for that speed, so we had to back off the speed and take less lean in order to make it. In Verm's case, he can take those same corners at the same speeds and higher by having more clearance to lean farther.

After a good hard session in the parking lot, focused on hard cornering, it'll be a piece of cake back on the roads.

That's what I had pictured in my head - does that make sense? Now, I realize that Verm's already had a great chance or two to have good practice at cornering at the tracks because he can corner at speed. Since he said the track/canyon is mostly blind rights or very little rights at all, that allows for little confident practice at rights. So, go where you can practice confidently.

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#439 Unread post by VermilionX » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:23 pm

i can also just hit ACH more.

then i would be familiar w/ the turns so that even if i can't see it... i'll have a good idea how it curves.
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#440 Unread post by Nalian » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:29 pm

The Crimson Rider® wrote:i can also just hit ACH more.

then i would be familiar w/ the turns so that even if i can't see it... i'll have a good idea how it curves.
Except you apparently miss your right hand turns 'cause they're blind. ;)

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