2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Special: Coolness = 60.3%

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Re: This week: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Spc: Vote T

#21 Unread post by jstark47 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:06 pm

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Grey Thumper wrote:Happen to know if "Reflex ABS" lets you use the rear brake on its own?
It took me a while, but I found this item in a review posted on the Overdrive website; "The system connects the brakes between 32 and 40kmph. Lower speeds or higher speeds allow the brakes to be operated independent of each other". I guess that explains why they are electronically linked.

I've never owned a bike with ABS (but have ridden a few) and while I do like the idea behind it, I'm not sure if linked brakes are a good idea at any speed. in fact, on a sidecar equipped motorcycle they would actually be more of a danger than a help in certain situations.
Why the heck would the MoCo go to all that trouble just to link brakes in an 8 kmh range? That's silly.

I'm not a fan of linked brakes either. My very first bike, a Honda Reflex scooter, had them. It was hard to do tight parking lot turns on that bike, dragging the rear brake also applied one of the three front pistons.

As far as the bike itself goes, batwing baggers aren't my favorite genre. This one's kind of pricey, too. However, I suppose it's a well-executed example of the type. Everything I read about the 103 motor is positive, except for the heat. Not my personal cup of tea, but I'll give it a Cool anyway.
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Re: This week: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Spc: Vote T

#22 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:38 pm

I finally went with: Uncool.

I donno, I think what we are seeing here is Harley-Davidson hitting a (soft) limit on what they can do (or are prepared to do) with their lineup. Even with the 98's H-D was having issues with engine heat problems, then the 103's ran even hotter, thus the "forward throttle twist" idea of cutting out the rear cylinder at a stop came out. Now it seems either that just wasn't enough and/or H-D is running into a air quality control issue as well. While the 103 is a "new" engine it really isn't vastly different than the 98 introduced in 1998. Heck, even the Sportster Evolution engine hasn't changed since 1986, and there are only a few motorcycles on the market today still using such an old design.

So that brings up the thought that somewhere, sometime, we must see something new/better/different in a H-D engine than we are seeing today. That is a day I'm looking forward to as I know H-D can do it, it's just if the market will accept them doing it.

As for the Street Glide, it's a good bike and there is nothing wrong with it and a little update it got. I'd just like to see it evolve as well into from what it is today to what it will be tomorrow (like the engine). No one can truly duplicate the sound of an H-D but...

I like Harley-Davidson bikes and the company is an amazing marketing company as well. I just know they are capable of so much more than playing catch-up and that's really the only disappointing part.

The line: "Don't fix what ain't broken" is good for H-D, but in today's world, maybe H-D is falling just a little too behind?

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Re: This week: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Spc: Vote T

#23 Unread post by jstark47 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:29 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:So that brings up the thought that somewhere, sometime, we must see something new/better/different in a H-D engine than we are seeing today.
It came out in 2001. It's called the V-rod. :) But not many people seem to want it.

Seriously, I know what you mean Mike. H-D knows it too, so they're tip toeing into water-cooled motors.
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#24 Unread post by Gummiente » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:49 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote:The line: "Don't fix what ain't broken" is good for H-D
Think about that a little harder and the understanding of why they do what they do will come to you; if HD's market research indicated that people wanted zippy sport bikes with all the latest gee-whiz technology, then that is what they'd be building.
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Re: This week: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Spc: Vote T

#25 Unread post by Grey Thumper » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:39 am

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totalmotorcycle wrote:The line: "Don't fix what ain't broken" is good for H-D
Think about that a little harder and the understanding of why they do what they do will come to you; if HD's market research indicated that people wanted zippy sport bikes with all the latest gee-whiz technology, then that is what they'd be building.
It makes me wonder about H-D loyalists though. There are lots of old brands out there with loyal enthusiasts; BMW, Triumph, Moto Guzzi, etc. And they get to make bikes in lots of different categories, for different tastes. I wonder if H-D feels it's unfair that they get pummeled whenever they do something new, like the V-Rod or the XR1200 (and I don't get it, since these two are pretty awesome bikes).
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#26 Unread post by Gummiente » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:40 am

True enough, Mr Grey. And then there's that whole Buell episode. And the buy/sell of MV Agusta. Two companies that could have taken HD in a whole new direction, but no. I believe the only reason the V-Rod is still around is because they sell like hotcakes everywhere else except in North America and that is a shame because they are indeed very nice bikes.
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#27 Unread post by BobK » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:46 am

Gummiente wrote:True enough, Mr Grey. And then there's that whole Buell episode. And the buy/sell of MV Agusta. Two companies that could have taken HD in a whole new direction, but no. I believe the only reason the V-Rod is still around is because they sell like hotcakes everywhere else except in North America and that is a shame because they are indeed very nice bikes.
I've seen as many V-Rods on the road in Europe as I have other Harley models. Also, the "pirates" here drive all brands of bikes, not just Harleys.

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#28 Unread post by Wrider » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:40 pm

I heard a joke about the new motor from a MoCo loyalist the other day and I figured it would make most of you laugh.

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#29 Unread post by storysunfolding » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:55 pm

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#30 Unread post by High_Side » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:12 am

But I heard sprinkler head.....

A come on, lighten up Francis, it's a joke :mrgreen:

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#31 Unread post by Gummiente » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:09 am

FINALLY, a Harley joke I haven't heard before.











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#32 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:05 pm

Gummiente wrote:
totalmotorcycle wrote:The line: "Don't fix what ain't broken" is good for H-D
Think about that a little harder and the understanding of why they do what they do will come to you; if HD's market research indicated that people wanted zippy sport bikes with all the latest gee-whiz technology, then that is what they'd be building.
Forsure. After all, I do ride a Moto Guzzi V7, which is even less advanced in some ways vs a Harley-Davidson (1947 Heron heads anyone?). :laughing:

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Re: This week: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Spc: Vote T

#33 Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:15 pm

And now what you have all been waiting for, the 1 week Cool Wall results....




Your Coolness Factor of the 2014 Harley-Davidson FLHXS Street Glide Special is..

Awesome (3 points) 14% [ 3 ]
Cool (2 points) 57% [ 12 ]
Uncool (1 point) 24% [ 5 ]
Fail (0 point) 5% [ 1 ]

Total votes : 21

= a Coolwall Factor of 60.3%

NOTES: Harley-Davidson (always remember to put that - between them, H-D gets testy if you forget...it's a true story you'll have to ask me about sometime) turns a corner and introduces their first High Output and water cooled Big Twin engine. Will H-D find new rider favor with this new design or turn away die-hard loyals? Overall, I did expect more interest in the new 2014 model and I know that Harley-Davidson does read this thread as well so I wonder what they are thinking too... I'm sure they are gathering rider feedback all over the place but 60.3% Coolness isn't that bad of an ending.

Next bike is now up for voting on, have fun!!

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Re: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Special: Coolness = 60

#34 Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:43 pm

I voted fail because the introduction of a touch screen on a motorcycle is a dangerous thing.
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Re: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street Glide Special: Coolness = 60

#35 Unread post by Gummiente » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:03 pm

blues2cruise wrote:I voted fail because the introduction of a touch screen on a motorcycle is a dangerous thing.
Seriously? Why?
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#36 Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:28 pm

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blues2cruise wrote:I voted fail because the introduction of a touch screen on a motorcycle is a dangerous thing.
Seriously? Why?
I just think adding a large screen that takes eyes off the road and a hand off the bars to touch commands is a recipe for disaster.

It wouldn't matter what manufacturer did this...it just seems wrong.
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#37 Unread post by Gummiente » Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:51 pm

blues2cruise wrote:I just think adding a large screen that takes eyes off the road and a hand off the bars to touch commands is a recipe for disaster.
For years all the large touring bikes from Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, BMW, Harley and Victory have had all kinds of little buttons and switches within reach of the rider that require momentary eye and hand contact to operate. The Gold Wing has had an in-dash GPS since 2008. Just seems a little harsh to fail a bike simply because it has a touch screen, when so many other distractions have been standard equipment on many other bikes for years.
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#38 Unread post by storysunfolding » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:31 pm

Not to mention how many bikes add gps systems or tablets that provide maps, music and caller I'd for cellphone calls. The market asks for it so why not build it into the bike? Your personal thoughts on safety don't change that.
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#39 Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:28 pm

Gummi...I was not aware that there already existed in dash things like gps's.

I thought this was something new.
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#40 Unread post by blues2cruise » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:29 pm

storysunfolding wrote:Not to mention how many bikes add gps systems or tablets that provide maps, music and caller I'd for cellphone calls. The market asks for it so why not build it into the bike? Your personal thoughts on safety don't change that.
Sheesh..I'm entitled to my opinion.
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