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The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:52 am
by Big Red Rider
I am new here and have been looking around a bit. I also belong to a Honda Rebel forum that has a lady rider group. Funny thing about the Rebel Lady Rider's group - no MEN are allowed to post there. It certainly makes a difference in who participates and what we discuss. Maybe this group is dying out because there seems to be as many men posting here as women. Goodness gracious!

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:47 am
by Wrider
Ya know, for your first foray into this forum you're coming off as awfully hostile. We're nothing like the average forum where all women get is pic requests. My suggestion is to read a bit of the threads and see that we actually tend to get along pretty well and aren't trying to become a sexist/elitist type of forum.

And for what it's worth; yes I'm a guy, no I don't care if you have pics or not. Well except for the bike. I like the M50s. :)

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:42 am
by MmeMagpie
I've only been here a few months, but I view the Ladies Lounge as a relic of the past. The general good manners and sense of camaraderie on this forum render that sort of segregation unnecessary. I like that I can just show up and play in the big sandbox with everyone, rather than feel like I have to go hide in some corner. It's a rare and wonderful thing to find a collection of decent people like this.

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:20 am
by mogster
If we banned male folk (or even someone of unknown gender) then we would be guilty of the same sexism that us sisters have complained about for years. :rant:

This reminds me of when I visited my late fathers' golf club as a child...............I was curious as to why there was a "special" ladies room (glorified changing room) when there was no "special" mens room :?

The answer - which offended my eight year old self -was that ladies could only enter the member's lounge in the company of a gentleman (who had to wear a jacket & tie).

So if I want to have the odd sweet sherry in the big clubroom it is only fair that the menfolk can pop in here for the odd cup of tea & slice of cake :coffeetime: :lol:

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:56 am
by sapaul
:group: Yes please Mogs

I love cake

As for the ladies lounge, we men see it as a privilege to post here and we mind our P's and Q's and seeing as it is full of biker chicks EK SE, I am sure we will get our bollocks kicked if we step out of line

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:56 am
by BobK
Cake ok but hold the tea.

This is where we hairy neanderthals come to get in touch with our feminine side.

sapaul, if you're really been riding for 90 years, I don't know where you get the energy to step out of line.

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:27 am
by sapaul
BobK wrote:Cake ok but hold the tea.

This is where we hairy neanderthals come to get in touch with our feminine side.

sapaul, if you're really been riding for 90 years, I don't know where you get the energy to step out of line.
One look from Sunshine and I am off like a whippet :lol:

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:28 pm
by mogster
Here is an elegant afternoon tea - all welcome.

I am sure we could find a sweet sherry for Bob as he doesn't want tea :D

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:12 pm
by BobK
Yes, a sherry would be lovely, thanks. Then the other gents and I will retire to the drawing room for cigars.

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:14 pm
by JackoftheGreen
I think it's simply a matter of gender saturation in the two communities you've mentioned, Big Red. Here at Total Motorcycle, I have to imagine the gender split is either close to even, or slightly weighted on the male side. A forum for Honda Rebel owners though, the participant base has gotta be 90% women already... :::ducks to avoid flying debris:::

Just kidding. Seriously, this is a motorcycling forum. I can't actually be sure of this, but it's my assumption most men involved in our sport feel as I do about our co-eds -- eternally grateful for their participation. We're just so damned happy to have some women strapping on helmets and leather and riding with us, we're extra careful not to offend them or chase them off. The sort of badgering, pestering, and shameless fliration that doubtless goes on in a mountain biking or rock climbing or hiking or tattoo aficiando forum just isn't going to be as pervasive here. And it you do get that sorta treatment, Mike will ban that sonofabitch before you can say 'meat market'.

For what it's worth though -- with the exception of this exact post --, I've only ever posted to the Ladies Lounge to express my wife's opinion on a topic and always with her blessing. She just doesn't have the 'internet social' mindset, and so communicates through me.

And, with all that said, welcome to Total Motorcycle. I agree with Wrider, love to see some pics of that M50 whether you're in the frame or not. (-:

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:02 pm
by Grey Thumper
I think the Ladies Lounge seems relatively un-busy not because men post there, but because the women on this board post anywhere they please; a rider is a rider after all. Most of the time (unless your avatar is pretty obvious) I don't know what gender a poster is anyway.

I don't think the Ladies Lounge is a relic though. Like it or not, there will be women-specific issues, the same way there will be, say, off road-rider, or classic bike rider-specific issues. But I suspect those boards aren't that busy either for similar reasons.

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:48 am
by Loonette
This Ladies' Lounge was originally developed so that those of us who were interested could discuss issues that might seem geared more towards women without having to sift through other posts all over the forum site. There have been a few (a VERY few) inappropriate posts here in the past, but TotalMotorcycle and the mods have done a great job to make sure that those sorts of things do not continue.

I would hate to see a "ban" on men posting here, as often times they are merely sharing information that they feel may be beneficial to the ladies as a whole. And I totally agree with Grey Thumper... the women on this forum don't hang out only in the Ladies' Lounge - we spend most of our time elsewhere on the forums talking about what... oh yeah - BIKES!!! :wink:

Cheers,
Loonette

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:57 pm
by BobK
I thought it would be ok to post here because I ride a girls' bike.
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Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:57 pm
by Thumper
I've hung out on boards where the Ladies' Lounge is password protected and women only, and it works. Women tend to talk about things they just don't when men are peeking in and replying...it's rarely motorcycle talk and can get very personal. Some pretty hard core friendships are formed there.

I've hung out on boards where the LL is open and everyone can participate, and it works. But the subjects under discussion are very different, rarely get personal, and tend to stay within the realm of m/c fodder.

It all depends on the climate of the board overall... If a forum is busy enough, where there is enough participation by women, closing it to men makes sense. But when there are only a handful of women who don't seem interested in closing it to men...why bother?

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:11 pm
by totalmotorcycle
Big Red Rider wrote:I am new here and have been looking around a bit. I also belong to a Honda Rebel forum that has a lady rider group. Funny thing about the Rebel Lady Rider's group - no MEN are allowed to post there. It certainly makes a difference in who participates and what we discuss. Maybe this group is dying out because there seems to be as many men posting here as women. Goodness gracious!
Hi Big Red Rider and welcome to not only Total Motorcycle but also to the Ladies Lounge. The Ladies Lounge is one of the sub-forums I'm really proud of myself, it's been up for a little over 7 years now (longer than the majority of websites out there), and it's always been open, friendly and the guys respect the women posting here... sometimes we just can't help ourselves and post in here too, but it's just to add something (we feel as men) important to the discussion. :D

As it's been said, everyone can post everywhere and we have over 16,000 members, many are lady riders who have been helped by this sub forum. Sometimes it's busy, busy, other times, it's slower.

Feel free to start a topic or interesting discussion here anytime.

Mike

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:03 pm
by JackoftheGreen
I keep peeking in on this to see if the OP has responded and to see what the climate is like.

Despite the comments that have been made, the OPs statements could be called a 'motion' and Thumper's comments a couple posts above could be considered a 'second'. If the phpBB software is capable, I'd like to suggest a voting thread to query whether our women couterparts would like a password protected, female exclusive forum. I know several women have already posted to this thread saying such a thing isn't necessary, but there's no telling how they might have responded if they knew us apes wouldn't be checking in. (-:

Just a suggestion. I know the reason my wife and I prefer to ride alone is to avoid the 'sewing circle' drama that can come with a group -- I'd hate to think there are any women among our membership base who feel less free to praticipate for the same reason. How 'bout it Mike, doable?

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:25 pm
by totalmotorcycle
JackoftheGreen - I agree, it would be good to hear from the OP as she seems to not have replied yet.

About "password protecting the forum", there currently is no option for it in phpBB, only work arounds. I have tried to make public forums private in the past (like the Usergroup forums), but to honest they haven't been successful and a lot of work for not only myself to approve (or get a mod to do so) and for those to apply for the access. Thus, I appreciate the suggestion but it's worked very well as an open forum for 7 years already... much longer than most ladies forums have ever lasted and that's thanks to the friendly and helpful nature of TMW forum members. :D

Mike

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:34 pm
by mogster
JackoftheGreen wrote: I know several women have already posted to this thread saying such a thing isn't necessary, but there's no telling how they might have responded if they knew us apes wouldn't be checking in

But is the very fact that you boys are so nosy that makes it fun :D

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:20 pm
by JackoftheGreen
Mike, certainly if the software can't do it, it's not worth looking into. And if even the OP doesn't feel strongly enough about the topic to participate in the debate...

Re: The Ladies' Lounge - REALLY?

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:16 pm
by dr_bar
Yes, you can have your private conversations, just use the PM feature...