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#1 Unread post by SBK15 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:17 pm

Well, i wouldnt mind a good lookin' dual sport next year.
but, im not sure which one i like better.
So far, i think ive like the KLR the best...but the XR looks pretty dang cool for 2008.

What's your opinnion?


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#2 Unread post by SBK15 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:18 pm

I've also rode my buddys DR650 a bunch of times, and its pretty powerfull and comfortable.
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#3 Unread post by paul246 » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:07 pm

You will have to ask yourself a number of questions, including what ratio of street to off-road you will likely do, how serious you are about tackling seriously rough terrain, what seat height you feel comfortable with, is the off-road terrain going to be tight in the trees or mostly open, what fuel range you want, is highway comfort a priority, etc.

After asking those questions I can say that I still love my choice, but that's me. You'll have to assess yourself first, then look at the bikes.
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#4 Unread post by SBK15 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:16 pm

paul246 wrote:You will have to ask yourself a number of questions, including what ratio of street to off-road you will likely do, how serious you are about tackling seriously rough terrain, what seat height you feel comfortable with, is the off-road terrain going to be tight in the trees or mostly open, what fuel range you want, is highway comfort a priority, etc.

After asking those questions I can say that I still love my choice, but that's me. You'll have to assess yourself first, then look at the bikes.
Well, about 45% of the time on my bike I will be doing off-road use, wich isn't that much. I'm not gonna do anything crazy in the woods, like motorcross and what not. Seat height, I would like to flat-foot, but i was comfortable with almost flat-footing my buddy's DR650SE. Highway comfort i could care less about. Fuel range, i DON'T want a gass hog. Wich makes the best MPG? When i do go off-road it'll be tight in the trees.
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#5 Unread post by paul246 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:19 pm

From your description I would bet that the KLR650 would suit your needs, but none of the 3 bikes you listed are going to be fun in tight woods, you would be better off with something in the 250 class in that case.
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#6 Unread post by SBK15 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:46 am

Well, it'll be trail riding, not actually "tight in trees" i didn't clarify that. If you know what windrock is. That's where i'll be
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#7 Unread post by Bartt Rice » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:58 pm

The Kawasaki KLR650 has a oil consumsion problem
In the 2008 models Kawasaki has changed the design of the piston rings to possibly correct this problem.
2007 and older models of the KLR650 its considered normal for them to use 1 quart of oil every 500 to 800 miles.

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#8 Unread post by follow » Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:45 pm

do you think a very short person 5'3" could handle the KLR, my husband wants me to get one and go off roading with him, no serious dirt bike riding just trails and fire roads. My younger days I use to ride a Honda 500 thumper but that was 20 years ago, I don't feel like getting beat up or have a kidney prolapse.
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#9 Unread post by HYPERR » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:03 pm

FOLLOW wrote:do you think a very short person 5'3" could handle the KLR, my husband wants me to get one and go off roading with him, no serious dirt bike riding just trails and fire roads. My younger days I use to ride a Honda 500 thumper but that was 20 years ago, I don't feel like getting beat up or have a kidney prolapse.
The KLR would be pretty tall for a 5'3" person. Kouba does make lowering links for it. If you want to stay in the 650cc class, the Suzuki DR650 is lower and better off-road. They have a dealer lowering kit and you can even lower it more with a Corbin seat.

If you don't need the big thumper, the Yamaha XT250 or the Honda CR230L are great choices as they are much lower to the ground.
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#10 Unread post by paul246 » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:10 pm

FOLLOW wrote:do you think a very short person 5'3" could handle the KLR, my husband wants me to get one and go off roading with him, no serious dirt bike riding just trails and fire roads. My younger days I use to ride a Honda 500 thumper but that was 20 years ago, I don't feel like getting beat up or have a kidney prolapse.
It isn't your height that is of concern so much as your inseam, Also, don't assume you have to flat foot these bikes, far from it.

I know of a local couple that bought two KLRs' and had hers lowered right at the shop when it arrived. They took off on a great trip through Alaska and had a ball. She was probably about your height, BTW.

For plain having a good time I would also recommend (as did Hyperr) the Yamaha XT250 or Honda 230L. I think Kawasaki and Suzuki also carry some small DS bikes as well.
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#11 Unread post by HYPERR » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:19 pm

paul246 wrote: I think Kawasaki and Suzuki also carry some small DS bikes as well.
Kawasaki does make a DP 250, the KLX250S which I own. However the seat height on that is about the same as the KLR at 35". Suzuki's DR200 is junk and their DRZ400S has a 37" seat height.
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#12 Unread post by Hondagirl » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:59 am

I have a Honda 230 - I'm 5" 4 ish and an inch or two shorter would be no problem at all to flat foot, and it's a very cool and fun bike too :happybikeday:
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#13 Unread post by HYPERR » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:48 am

Hondagirl wrote:I have a Honda 230 - I'm 5" 4 ish and an inch or two shorter would be no problem at all to flat foot, and it's a very cool and fun bike too :happybikeday:
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#14 Unread post by follow » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:47 pm

Paul246,
That's what my husband wants to do, ride up to Alaska and if we see a place we want to adventure off then so be it. Also we live in Colorado which has plenty of places to adventure around.
I think he wants me to stay in the 650 class because of Interstate speed. Also I get pretty competive, he says I am hard on bikes.
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#15 Unread post by paul246 » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:15 pm

Too bad about the interstate idea, IMHO the super slab is a total waste of any motorcycle, better to take the less used and more enjoyable secondary roads.

If you plan on riding all the way to Alaska and back you may wish to look at a BMW 650GS, much better seat than a typical dual sport. The BMW is OK if all you plan to tackle are fire roads and easy trails.

Another option to consider is going with smaller dual sports, but hauling them in the back of a truck or on a trailer. Not purist but certainly practical, and you'll have more fun on the smaller machines off road, plus enjoy their benefits around town when you are back in Colorado.
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#16 Unread post by MTexile » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:07 pm

Was going to start a new one but since this one covers the same topic...
Am also looking at getting a DS for a second bike. In my early teens I rode a friends Honda 90 cc trail bike, that was about 30 years ago and have the same DR650/KLR650/XR650 quandry. I would like to consider a BMW 650 GS, but the nearest dealer is 50+ miles away, Triumph has turned the Tiger into a street bike, and KTM's seem very pricey. Am 5'8" and figure will have to lower what I buy at least a inch or get a aftermarket seat.
Want a 650 because I plan on riding on the highway to get to various areas (Northern PA, the Sheandoah Valley, etc.). Figure 40% asphalt/60% dirt. Will be carrying tent, sleeping bag, 2-3 days food, etc...Have looked at all three bikes, am leaning towards the KLR, but not by much. suggestions?
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#17 Unread post by paul246 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:38 am

MTexile wrote:Was going to start a new one but since this one covers the same topic...
Am also looking at getting a DS for a second bike. In my early teens I rode a friends Honda 90 cc trail bike, that was about 30 years ago and have the same DR650/KLR650/XR650 quandry. I would like to consider a BMW 650 GS, but the nearest dealer is 50+ miles away, Triumph has turned the Tiger into a street bike, and KTM's seem very pricey. Am 5'8" and figure will have to lower what I buy at least a inch or get a aftermarket seat.
Want a 650 because I plan on riding on the highway to get to various areas (Northern PA, the Sheandoah Valley, etc.). Figure 40% asphalt/60% dirt. Will be carrying tent, sleeping bag, 2-3 days food, etc...Have looked at all three bikes, am leaning towards the KLR, but not by much. suggestions?
OK, 40 % asphalt is easy to define. We need to clarify what you mean by 60% dirt. Is it gravel, hard pack, loose dirt, mud, sand?

Right from the get-go you can rule out the BMW GS, it isn't made for true off-road riding. But they have other models that are more capable.
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#18 Unread post by HYPERR » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:14 am

paul246 wrote:
OK, 40 % asphalt is easy to define. We need to clarify what you mean by 60% dirt. Is it gravel, hard pack, loose dirt, mud, sand?
Yep exactly.

Hard pack is nothing. You could do that with any bike. Gravel is a little tougher but it would be a total piece of cake for the KLR, DR, or the XR.
Mud and Deep Sugar Sand are two of the toughest types of terrain but it also has a lot to do with rider skill, experience and tires.
If you are planning to do lots of tight technical trails, all of these bikes may be a little too big.

I personally think unless you have the necessary inseam or good skills, the XR is too tall. It really boils down to which is more important and which you are willing to sacrifice less. The highway ride to get to the trails or the trails themselves. If the former is more important, then get the KLR. If it's the latter, then the DR.
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#19 Unread post by MTexile » Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:43 pm

As far as dirt goes, most likely I'll be on dirt roads, some gravel and mud. No sand and am not planning to ride deep into the boonies, but I might go up a fire/skid trail if my GPS and maps will give me a short cut.
Thanks for the quick responses also!
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#20 Unread post by paul246 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:55 am

MTexile wrote:As far as dirt goes, most likely I'll be on dirt roads, some gravel and mud. No sand and am not planning to ride deep into the boonies, but I might go up a fire/skid trail if my GPS and maps will give me a short cut.
Thanks for the quick responses also!
In that case I would recommend the KLR, its the best for comfort on the highway and will do everything you want for your proposed applications.
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