Rothliesberger...

Message
Author
User avatar
dr_bar
Site Supporter - Diamond
Site Supporter - Diamond
Posts: 4531
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 4:37 am
Real Name: Doug
Sex: Male
Years Riding: 44
My Motorcycle: 2007 Yamaha Royal Star Venture
Location: Surrey BC, Canada

#51 Unread post by dr_bar »

Yeah, shyt happens...

"THE RIGHT OF WAY"
Just because you have it, doesn't mean you should take it. Walking, riding a bike, driving a car, riding a motorcycle, it's all the same. A pedestrian always has the right of way, but do you step out in front of speeding cars very often just because you're legally in the right??? Sure the law says that the guy on the right has the "right of way", but if there is someone on my left in the intersection, even if they're stopped, I'm going to forfit my right of way pretty quick. I don't trust anyone that is putting their vehicle in my way. People around here call that "Defensive Driving"...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Four wheels move the body.
Two wheels move the soul!"
backrevin
Regular
Regular
Posts: 49
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:10 am
Sex: Male
Location: CT

#52 Unread post by backrevin »

http://kdka.com/video

Pittsburg local TV video clips, @ scene news reports, PA Govener on helmet laws in the state, witness accounts, update on Big ben's condition, did he have a license or didn't he etc etc etc....as of this post but clips probably rotate on a daily basis.

We choose to ride, there are inherent risks, we each make choices on what steps we take to mitigate the risks and he made his. I hope he is able and chooses to ride again and if he does I wonder if he will take a different approach to protective gear based on this tough lesson ....he is fortunate not everyone gets a second chance to rethink their strategy.
If you're going through hell, keep going.

2005 Moto Guzzi Nevada Classic 750 I.E.
Bubble Gum Jr.
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 10:11 am

#53 Unread post by Bubble Gum Jr. »

I don't get the logic behind that doctor saying a helmet wouldn't have neccessarily helped Ben. All of the damage that Ben had were in areas a helmet would have taken the brunt of. Saying the helmet could have caused more neck injury because of the additional weight. But then again the doc specializes in facial restructures, it would be a wetdream for him if no one wore helmets.
User avatar
cb360
Site Supporter - Gold
Site Supporter - Gold
Posts: 1196
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:15 am
Sex: Male
Location: Seattle, Washington

#54 Unread post by cb360 »

What crazy donkey doctor said that? Perhaps he was thinking of a half/helmet, which probably wouldn't have helped since he took a major blow to the jaw. A full-face damn sure would have helped... and I don't think you need medical degree to know that.
1974 Honda CB360
1985 Honda Magna VF700c
Bubble Gum Jr.
Veteran
Veteran
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 10:11 am

#55 Unread post by Bubble Gum Jr. »

cb360 wrote:What crazy donkey doctor said that? Perhaps he was thinking of a half/helmet, which probably wouldn't have helped since he took a major blow to the jaw. A full-face damn sure would have helped... and I don't think you need medical degree to know that.
http://kdka.com/video


It's Video 6/13 on the very bottom left, it's called experts opinion on helmets. He says if you go through a windshield with a helmet you're going to have alot more head and neck trauma because of the additional weight. However if you go through a windshield without a helmet, you'll be dead so you don't have to worry about head/neck trauma.
User avatar
TechTMW
Legendary 2000
Legendary 2000
Posts: 2045
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:43 pm
Sex: Male
Years Riding: 10
My Motorcycle: 2005 BMW R1200GS
Location: Alexandria VA

#56 Unread post by TechTMW »

Bubble Gum Jr. wrote: He says if you go through a windshield with a helmet you're going to have alot more head and neck trauma because of the additional weight. However if you go through a windshield without a helmet, you'll be dead so you don't have to worry about head/neck trauma.
Get that man an ABATE membership!!! :laughing:
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”
- Soren Kierkegaard (19th century Danish philosopher)
User avatar
cb360
Site Supporter - Gold
Site Supporter - Gold
Posts: 1196
Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:15 am
Sex: Male
Location: Seattle, Washington

#57 Unread post by cb360 »

That's completely asinine. What the hell does an extra pound or two mean when your face is going through a windshield? Does not compute.
Bubble Gum Jr. wrote:
cb360 wrote:What crazy donkey doctor said that? Perhaps he was thinking of a half/helmet, which probably wouldn't have helped since he took a major blow to the jaw. A full-face damn sure would have helped... and I don't think you need medical degree to know that.
http://kdka.com/video


It's Video 6/13 on the very bottom left, it's called experts opinion on helmets. He says if you go through a windshield with a helmet you're going to have alot more head and neck trauma because of the additional weight. However if you go through a windshield without a helmet, you'll be dead so you don't have to worry about head/neck trauma.
1974 Honda CB360
1985 Honda Magna VF700c
User avatar
Sev
Site Supporter - Gold
Site Supporter - Gold
Posts: 7352
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:52 pm
Sex: Male
Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta

#58 Unread post by Sev »

dr_bar wrote:Yeah, shyt happens...

"THE RIGHT OF WAY"
Just because you have it, doesn't mean you should take it. Walking, riding a bike, driving a car, riding a motorcycle, it's all the same. A pedestrian always has the right of way, but do you step out in front of speeding cars very often just because you're legally in the right??? Sure the law says that the guy on the right has the "right of way", but if there is someone on my left in the intersection, even if they're stopped, I'm going to forfit my right of way pretty quick. I don't trust anyone that is putting their vehicle in my way. People around here call that "Defensive Driving"...
My MSF instructors went on and on about the RIGHT OF WEIGHT which is to say, "They weigh more, and will get hurt LESS when they hit you, let them go first.

Being within your rights doesn't make you any less dead when a Hummer finishes driving over you.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

[url=http://sirac-sev.blogspot.com/][img]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/Sevulturus/sig.jpg[/img][/url]
User avatar
TechTMW
Legendary 2000
Legendary 2000
Posts: 2045
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:43 pm
Sex: Male
Years Riding: 10
My Motorcycle: 2005 BMW R1200GS
Location: Alexandria VA

#59 Unread post by TechTMW »

He didn't have a valid license or learner's permit :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

What a hero.
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”
- Soren Kierkegaard (19th century Danish philosopher)
User avatar
Andrew
Legendary 500
Legendary 500
Posts: 521
Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 11:53 am
Sex: Male
Location: San Antonio, TX

#60 Unread post by Andrew »

I'm sure he thought that because he walks on water in Steeler country, he didn't really need to renew the liscence...

Or some excuse about being too busy to get it after the superbowl
2004 BMW K1200RS
[img]http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/smilies/BMWsmile.gif[/img]
Post Reply