can i make this work?

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#11 Post by **dr_bar** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:27 am

No tripod mount??? Isn't that what they invented drills and taps for...

Now let me get this straight, you're going to try and mount this camera so you can take your hand off of the bars long enough to take a video? When? While carving those canyons???

Why don't you hone your riding skills before taking up a new hobby as a videographer? Verm no insult intended, but we still don't want to read about you under an R.I.P. posting.

Let a third party get down and dirty with the camera, or get a real video camera and take pics with that starting and stopping the camera while you're stopped on the road.

Also, get yourself some good video editing software, that will let you edit in some music and get rid of any extraneous shots that aren't needed...

VermilionX · #12 Post by **VermilionX** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:29 am

mounting is not gonna work since it doesn't have mounts. it's not meant to be mounted, it's something small for your pockets.

i was just wondering if i could somehow find a way to mount it securely by other means.

i wonder how i can use a zip tie to make it work... i don't see a spot to tie it behind the screen.

brake reservior? where's that on my bike?

VermilionX · #13 Post by **VermilionX** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:30 am

dr_bar wrote:No tripod mount??? Isn't that what they invented drills and taps for...

Now let me get this straight, you're going to try and mount this camera so you can take your hand off of the bars long enough to take a video? When? While carving those canyons???

no... that's why i wanna find a way to mount it. so i'll just push the record button and then ride.

Sev · #14 Post by **Sev** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:32 am

Don't forget that no matter where you moun it, you need to be able to reach it with your left hand to press the button to take the picture. And this assumes that you have somehing worth taking a picture of. And a place to take it from.

Remember that the camera only sees a limited amount of what's in front of you, and that limited frame of reference will drastically change how the picture appears.

This is the best of about 10 pictures I took this way. The rest were also taken in curves, but because of the camera, it appears to be flat ground. And even though I was following fairly closely it appears that the riders in front of me are far away.

So would I bother with this again? No, it's more work then it's worth to get the camera on, then take the pictures. Because the pictures aren't particularly good.

By way of contrast, I kept my camera in the tank bag the rest of the time. I turned it on in there, grabbed it left handed, pulled up beside (2 lanes each direction with no cars anywhere near) Malice and snapped a bunch of pics, then stuck it back in the tank bag zipped it up, and hoped like hell that the turned out well. Of 7 pics of two people this one turned out the best.

So, freehand works better, though it's amazingly more dangerous. Which to me means that the best option is to get a pillion and have him/her taking the pictures.

VermilionX · #15 Post by **VermilionX** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:34 am

sev!

im not gonna use it for pics.

im gonna use it for vids.

i only need to press the button once before i ride and once when i stop.

#16 Post by **dr_bar** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:38 am

VermilionX wrote:it's not meant to be mounted, it's something small for your pockets.

You mean like this one???

With shake reduction, 8 mega pixels, 2.5 inch screen, 3.5"x2"x7/8", oh yeah, and a tripod mount...

VermilionX · #17 Post by **VermilionX** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:40 am

dr_bar wrote: With shake reduction, 8 mega pixels, 2.5 inch screen, 3.5"x2"x7/8", oh yeah, and a tripod mount...

that's a sweet cam!

Sev · #18 Post by **Sev** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:42 am

I'd belabor the obvious and explain that if it'll shake the "poo poo" out of a picture, it'll do the same for video and it'll be worse, but I'm sure you know that.

I will however point out that unless you have a HUGE memory stick you aren't going to get enough video to make it worthwhile, and most digital cameras take their vids at the worst possible resolution to save space meaning you're not going to have a very good video in the first place.

If it was me, I'd get a tank bag, and then attach the camera to the tank bag. Because it's a soft mount it'll prevent most of the vibration from happening, and with luck you'll be able to see through the windscreen (it is clear right?).

Though I say again, unless you have something worth looking at (another rider) just watching the scenery becomes really boring really fast due to the limited nature of the cameras range of vision.

VermilionX · #19 Post by **VermilionX** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:48 am

Sevulturus wrote:I'd belabor the obvious and explain that if it'll shake the "poo poo" out of a picture, it'll do the same for video and it'll be worse, but I'm sure you know that.

I will however point out that unless you have a HUGE memory stick you aren't going to get enough video to make it worthwhile, and most digital cameras take their vids at the worst possible resolution to save space meaning you're not going to have a very good video in the first place.

If it was me, I'd get a tank bag, and then attach the camera to the tank bag. Because it's a soft mount it'll prevent most of the vibration from happening, and with luck you'll be able to see through the windscreen (it is clear right?).

Though I say again, unless you have something worth looking at (another rider) just watching the scenery becomes really boring really fast due to the limited nature of the cameras range of vision.

remember the crappy vid (crappy as in me being crappy not the vid quality) of me on the canyons? it was taken using that camera. and the one i uploaded is even reduced in quality so that i could upload it.

i have a 1 GB memory stick on my PSP, but the 256MB on the camera is good enough. i don't need 1 hr of footage. about 5-10 mins is enough. who here would watch a 30min ride vid??? i won't unless it's a racing vid.

i already looked at tank bags before and i couldn't find one that has a place where i can put the camera facing front. do you know a tank bag that might help me?

Sev · #20 Post by **Sev** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:00 am

There isn't one, but you could always tape it in place.

When we used my friends videocamera for a recent ride all I did was loop a bungee cord around the camera and hook it through two D-rings (one on either side of the bag). I'll see if I can find the picture.

If you look closely you can see the camera and the bungee wrapped around it. The bag itself has two d-rings on either side that are used to attach a carry strap, so I just ran the bungee between two of them.

Video was a little shaky because it was out in the wind and the bag wasn't stuffed full so there was some movement, but you can correct those problems easily enough.