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isnowbrd · #11 Unread post by **isnowbrd** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:46 am

fantomboarder04

You have a ninja250? Why does your avatar show a ZX-6E?

isnowbrd · #12 Unread post by **isnowbrd** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:54 am

Shorts wrote:Why are people always surprised at 250 wheelies??? My bike....no no, not my bike with me doing them...but my model bike can do them and stoppies.

I am really tempted to try this on my VTR250. How hard on the bike is it to do wheelies? It seems like it would be really bad for the drive train to rev the engine and dump the clutch.

And my VTR is a 1989, so I really don't want to break it.

Dichotomous · Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:29 am

if you rev it hard and dump the clutch, then yes, its very bad on the engine and transmission and clutch. and usually bad on you cause this will most likely cause you to loop in anything but a cruiser, or it'll just toss ya off the back. a smooth clutch release with proper revs, experiment at where the rev's should be when letting out the clutch, let it out quickly but dont jar it. its going to make the spike in power to the rear wheel much nicer to the drivetrain if there is a little resistance already instead of snapping into place, so let the clutch out smoothly but quickly. Sitting up tall and farther back on the bike will likely help you get the first couple. if you need to bounce the front tire or really rev it and clutch it to pull up the front, then thats a little much, but like i said, I prefer power wheelies and am not likely to pull clutched wheelies and would feel as squidly as possible if I had to bounce my front tire (a common thing with my bike, but I wont do it). then again if I convert my bike to belt drive I am thinking of dropping the ratio anyways for smoother and better low speed handling, and wheelies will be a secondary result of this, also exxaggerated by the handlebars I want to make that will shift my weight up and back)

Ninja Geoff · Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:48 am

Guys... you can power wheelie a ninja 250... Hell, i can do it on my XR200R. You just have to try really hard.

isnowbrd · #15 Unread post by **isnowbrd** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:47 am

Geoff650R wrote:Guys... you can power wheelie a ninja 250... Hell, i can do it on my XR200R. You just have to try really hard.

How exactly? And have you done it on a 250 sportbike?

A XR200R is a single cylinder, which means more torqe than a v-twin, which means it would be easier to power wheelie. Also it has about 70 less pounds and 2 inches shorter wheelbase. Dirt bikes are easy to wheelie.

Shorts · #16 Unread post by **Shorts** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:13 pm

isnowbrd wrote:
Geoff650R wrote:Guys... you can power wheelie a ninja 250... Hell, i can do it on my XR200R. You just have to try really hard.
How exactly? And have you done it on a 250 sportbike?

A XR200R is a single cylinder, which means more torqe than a v-twin, which means it would be easier to power wheelie. Also it has about 70 less pounds and 2 inches shorter wheelbase. Dirt bikes are easy to wheelie.

You'll more than likely only do it with a clutch wheelie. I saw a good video on SBN about how to do a wheelie, it actually broke the technique down pretty easy.

I hear ya about not breaking anything on your VTR250. The unfortunate thing about those bikes is part availability.

Ninja Geoff · Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:07 pm

isnowbrd wrote:
Geoff650R wrote:Guys... you can power wheelie a ninja 250... Hell, i can do it on my XR200R. You just have to try really hard.
How exactly? And have you done it on a 250 sportbike?

A XR200R is a single cylinder, which means more torqe than a v-twin, which means it would be easier to power wheelie. Also it has about 70 less pounds and 2 inches shorter wheelbase. Dirt bikes are easy to wheelie.

And my +3 sprocket... But wait, it has 16 hp! Cruise foward right near the peak torque, with throttle open. Slam throttle shut, should nose dive a bit. As soon as it dives, WOT the sob and it should lift up. Also, lean back a bit.