when is it too much?

[stumpy56]

for m first bike i was looking at a ninja650r, a ZZr600, or a YZF600r. Are these bikes too big for a first bike?

[asiantay]

Pretty much... yes, they're too much.

Consider an EX500. The EX250 is good, too. But the 500 is more dynamic and just has more overall potential.

[VermilionX]

the 650R is a newbie bike.

the other 2, not so much.

[stumpy56]

alright, then what isnt a "newbie" bike?

[VermilionX]

alright, then what isnt a "newbie" bike?

generally speaking...

a bike around 60 bhp or less. the 650R is in the grey area, pushing the limits of a newbie being 72bhp.

of course, there are some lower powered bikes that debatable for behing newbie friendly like those old 2 strokes RR bikes.


basically, a newbie bike must have a wide area of forgiveness to rider errors

[Shorts]

Actually, that HP figure was 50hp or less. It seems to have become a grey area so much that its expanded.


Read the stickies at the top of the newb section.

[VermilionX]

Actually, that HP figure was 50hp or less. It seems to have become a grey area so much that its expanded.


Read the stickies at the top of the newb section.

50 bhp or less eleminates the GS500F and EX500. those bikes are above 50 bhp.

and we all know how great newbie bikes those 2 bikes are.

[Shorts]

By what, 2-3hp?

I don't care, buy what you want, its not my butt. If stay on and in one piece, good. If not, too bad.

[VermilionX]

By what, 2-3hp?

I don't care, buy what you want, its not my butt. If stay on and in one piece, good. If not, too bad.

the EX500 is in the mid50s

the GS500 is 52 IIRC.

bikes the M50, another good newbie bike, have 57bhp.

so 60bhp seems like a fair estimate.

[Scott58]

This should lower the population dramatically.