My bike is so hard to get started!! any tips?

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#11 Unread post by Shorts »

That's the model we use, have 2 and we're happy with them.
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Ok sweet I think Ill look into it..

and by the way I have a question.

I was reading that "600 CC for newb" or whatever topic.. and it says something about a quick rollof of the throttle after a rapid acceleration is bad? Does that mean just like if you accidently roll the throtle immensly, then just let it go, it will be bad? Because I think ive done that on my bike but nothing really happens. And is 15 HP alot? thats how much my bike has... but my lawn mower has 6 HP.

Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
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Dohun wrote:Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
No, just like cars, motorcycles have varying levels of power output. For instance:
Honda Nighthawk 250 250cc 22HP
Kawasaki Ninja 250 250cc 36HP*

H-D Dyna Superglide 1449cc 68HP
Yamaha YZF-R1 998cc 180HP

*Remember at only 36HP this "little" bike still does 105 miles per hour.
I got this info from http://www.californiabikenights.com/ You REALLY need to read through the Learn to Ride section. It's EXTREMELY helpful to answer questions like that.

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#14 Unread post by Wrider »

I found a relatively cheap model at the local Pep Boys here. Also, 15 hp is very little, a lot of riding lawn mowers have that much... ;) From my observations, the 4 cylinders have less torque per cc, but more horsepower, and the 2 cylinders have more torque, but less horsepower. Basically, with the 600cc+ bikes, when you do that, you shift forward, fast, due to engine braking. Oh, and just to chime in, my 800cc V-twin Volusia makes 58 horses and 45 ft/lbs of torque, which is less than most 500cc sportbikes/I4s. Good luck on yours!
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WVUChrome wrote:
Dohun wrote:Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
No, just like cars, motorcycles have varying levels of power output. For instance:
Honda Nighthawk 250 250cc 22HP
Kawasaki Ninja 250 250cc 36HP*

H-D Dyna Superglide 1449cc 68HP
Yamaha YZF-R1 998cc 180HP

*Remember at only 36HP this "little" bike still does 105 miles per hour.
I got this info from http://www.californiabikenights.com/ You REALLY need to read through the Learn to Ride section. It's EXTREMELY helpful to answer questions like that.

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Is there a big difference in going 92mph and 105 mph?

Ive gone 92 mph down this longass country lane.. and my bike only has 15 hp. It took about a long time but it got up there.
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#16 Unread post by Wrider »

Wow... I'm impressed... My bike only gets to 100... 5th gear, revving for all it's worth! Granted, together we weigh over 850... but still... wow!
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Dohun wrote: I was reading that "600 CC for newb" or whatever topic.. and it says something about a quick rollof of the throttle after a rapid acceleration is bad? Does that mean just like if you accidently roll the throtle immensly, then just let it go, it will be bad? Because I think ive done that on my bike but nothing really happens.
if your going full throttle and then let it off all at once, you have all of this engine drag at lets say 7000 rpm, and all of the weight on the bike moves forward after being shoved back, which makes the bike wobble? i guess that what you mean i don't know.
Dohun wrote:And is 15 HP alot? thats how much my bike has... but my lawn mower has 6 HP. Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
Different setups, mods, designs, etc. all play a part in how much hp you get from a cubic centimeter.
Depends on how you look at it I have a 395cc bike with 43hp and a 150cc dirtbike with over 15 hp, which get me to your other question about starting it in the cold. I think that the motorcycle company you bought that bike from isn't as efficient as say the big four japanese brands, soo they lean the bike out (more air less gas) to pass emissions tests. I suggest that you try to richin the carb by turning the adjustment screw like a half turn. But if it doesn't help then just turn it back to where you had it.
Also if you dont have a sealed battery, check the electrolite level. If it is low add distilled water, but if is too low i think you might have ruined it.
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logitech104 wrote:
Dohun wrote: I was reading that "600 CC for newb" or whatever topic.. and it says something about a quick rollof of the throttle after a rapid acceleration is bad? Does that mean just like if you accidently roll the throtle immensly, then just let it go, it will be bad? Because I think ive done that on my bike but nothing really happens.
if your going full throttle and then let it off all at once, you have all of this engine drag at lets say 7000 rpm, and all of the weight on the bike moves forward after being shoved back, which makes the bike wobble? i guess that what you mean i don't know.
Dohun wrote:And is 15 HP alot? thats how much my bike has... but my lawn mower has 6 HP. Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
Different setups, mods, designs, etc. all play a part in how much hp you get from a cubic centimeter.
Depends on how you look at it I have a 395cc bike with 43hp and a 150cc dirtbike with over 15 hp, which get me to your other question about starting it in the cold. I think that the motorcycle company you bought that bike from isn't as efficient as say the big four japanese brands, soo they lean the bike out (more air less gas) to pass emissions tests. I suggest that you try to richin the carb by turning the adjustment screw like a half turn. But if it doesn't help then just turn it back to where you had it.
Also if you dont have a sealed battery, check the electrolite level. If it is low add distilled water, but if is too low i think you might have ruined it.
Good Luck

Sorry but I am having a hard time understanding the second part... Im a brand new newb at motorcycling so that could be why. and i feel SO mentally challenged!! 200 CC Means the actual size of the engine... like .2 liters... wow im so dumb I wasnt really thinking, I dont know what I even thought of that 15 hp= 200 cc or w/e I thought CC was the equivalent of HP in everything else but in different terms. But its actually meaning C C as in ML ! LOL

ok

my bike weighs 256 pounds, and im 6'0 140 pounds so my bike and i weigh about 400 pounds. and i finnaly gert that engine rev off thing!
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logitech104 wrote:
Dohun wrote: I was reading that "600 CC for newb" or whatever topic.. and it says something about a quick rollof of the throttle after a rapid acceleration is bad? Does that mean just like if you accidently roll the throtle immensly, then just let it go, it will be bad? Because I think ive done that on my bike but nothing really happens.
if your going full throttle and then let it off all at once, you have all of this engine drag at lets say 7000 rpm, and all of the weight on the bike moves forward after being shoved back, which makes the bike wobble? i guess that what you mean i don't know.
Dohun wrote:And is 15 HP alot? thats how much my bike has... but my lawn mower has 6 HP. Is every 200 cc = 15 hp? so like 600cc = 45 hp? 1200 cc = 90 hp?
Different setups, mods, designs, etc. all play a part in how much hp you get from a cubic centimeter.
Depends on how you look at it I have a 395cc bike with 43hp and a 150cc dirtbike with over 15 hp, which get me to your other question about starting it in the cold. I think that the motorcycle company you bought that bike from isn't as efficient as say the big four japanese brands, soo they lean the bike out (more air less gas) to pass emissions tests. I suggest that you try to richin the carb by turning the adjustment screw like a half turn. But if it doesn't help then just turn it back to where you had it.
Also if you dont have a sealed battery, check the electrolite level. If it is low add distilled water, but if is too low i think you might have ruined it.
Good Luck

Sorry but I am having a hard time understanding the second part... Im a brand new newb at motorcycling so that could be why. and i feel SO mentally challenged!! 200 CC Means the actual size of the engine... like .2 liters... wow im so dumb I wasnt really thinking, I dont know what I even thought of that 15 hp= 200 cc or w/e I thought CC was the equivalent of HP in everything else but in different terms. But its actually meaning C C as in ML ! LOL

ok

my bike weighs 256 pounds, and im 6'0 140 pounds so my bike and i weigh about 400 pounds. and i finnaly gert that engine rev off thing!
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#20 Unread post by gitarjunky »

CC stands for "cubic centimeters"....its the volume of the cylinders....
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