dirt/trail bike to start

[oldschoolorange]

if you go the 2 stroke route. I highly recommend the KDX 220, They are tanks and are amazing handling bikes with gobs of torque ofr offroad use. There is a guy around here that uses the TW200 as his daily commuter bike. He beats the hell out of the poor thing

[yardape]

Nice call with the KDX220. I found a review on it that mentioned:

"However, Kawasaki isn't really pointing this bike towards the racers. Instead the 220 is a sure-footed trail bike for people who just want to ride and have fun and possibly never race, with a slightly torquier, softer powerband."

http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdirt/tra ... dx200.html

Is the 2 stroke route easier on maintenance? What's the main benefit?

y.a.

if you go the 2 stroke route. I highly recommend the KDX 220, They are tanks and are amazing handling bikes with gobs of torque ofr offroad use. There is a guy around here that uses the TW200 as his daily commuter bike. He beats the hell out of the poor thing

[qwerty]

Nice call with the KDX220. I found a review on it that mentioned:

"However, Kawasaki isn't really pointing this bike towards the racers. Instead the 220 is a sure-footed trail bike for people who just want to ride and have fun and possibly never race, with a slightly torquier, softer powerband."

http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdirt/tra ... dx200.html

Is the 2 stroke route easier on maintenance? What's the main benefit?

y.a.

if you go the 2 stroke route. I highly recommend the KDX 220, They are tanks and are amazing handling bikes with gobs of torque ofr offroad use. There is a guy around here that uses the TW200 as his daily commuter bike. He beats the hell out of the poor thing

2-stroke maintenance is easier, but there's more of it.

[logitech104]

2 strokes are also moderatly louder. good if you hate your neighbors!

[yardape]

Yah, I just read the thread on it:
viewtopic.php?t=18803

Seems like 6 of one, half dozen of another. I like the benefits of 2 stroke, but i think i'm still leaning toward a 4 stroke on/off road machine.

2-stroke maintenance is easier, but there's more of it.

[MotoF150]

Mr. yardape, Don't start out with a little 200cc, believe me you will quickly grow bored and tired with it and upset that it doesnt have enough power, once you get used to it you will wish for and want a bigger, more powerfull bike. The Suzuki DRZ400S has enough power to satisfy any skilled rider, this bike is exciting and fun to ride, this is one of the few "do everything bike" It does everything if you wanta race, hill climb, run thru the mud, jump it and off road beat it, or if you wanta run on a highway with the street bikes at 90mph, this bike will do it. This bike is as light as a feather and will respond to ur body weight, soon you will learn to ride wheelies and this bike will impress anybody! You can get street legal knobbies for it, with the knobbies and the high fenders and suspension it looks like a bad a** motocross bike.

[Koss]

Mr. yardape, Don't start out with a little 200cc, believe me you will quickly grow bored and tired with it and upset that it doesnt have enough power, once you get used to it you will wish for and want a bigger, more powerfull bike. The Suzuki DRZ400S has enough power to satisfy any skilled rider, this bike is exciting and fun to ride, this is one of the few "do everything bike" It does everything if you wanta race, hill climb, run thru the mud, jump it and off road beat it, or if you wanta run on a highway with the street bikes at 90mph, this bike will do it. This bike is as light as a feather and will respond to ur body weight, soon you will learn to ride wheelies and this bike will impress anybody! You can get street legal knobbies for it, with the knobbies and the high fenders and suspension it looks like a bad a** motocross bike.

There is more to a bike and riding than power.

[MotoF150]

everybody I know and everybody else I know including myself always grow tired and bored with the bike they own now and wishes it was more powerful and faster thats why every year someone makes a bigger cc and faster bike, maybe just 10 years ago the biggest bike you can get was a 1000-1100 cc, now they have a 2200cc bike, thats bigger than a lot of car engines, I have a friend I ride with that went out and purchaced a VTX1800 right after I bought my M50, I can't keep up with him, now im forced to buy a bike thats faster than his, where will it end? The bike im looking at now is the V Strom 1000, I would much rather own the V Strom 650, but I need the extra power to keep up with my riding buddies. Thats why I suggested to start out with a bigger more powerful bike, you will be glad you did, not regret it later.

[qwerty]

Please don't pay attention to MotoF150. Just look at his name, he motos a Ford pickup truck.

I have over 600,000 street miles of motorcycling under my butt, plus several years of racing, from shorttrack to Baja, 1/8th drags to Daytona and Bonneville. The last bike I bought was a 200cc dualsport. Why? Because it's easy. If you start with a 125 or 250cc trailbike that is street legal, you'll want to keep it for its utility even when you get a bigger bike. Just go to any motorcycle racing event and see how many old trailbikes are still in use as pitbikes.

Starting with a 400cc bike offroad makes about as much sense as starting with a 600cc sportbike onroad, with usually the same disasterous results. Sure, you'll eventually grow bored with a small bike, but you have to learn to walk before you can run.

[MotoF150]

Mr. qwerty! Ford Trucks are #1 at least my F150 has a fuly enclosed boxed frame, ur truck has an open bent piece of sheet metal as a frame. I suggested to start out with a bigger bike to save him from the shame and embarressment from everybody picking on him, making fun of him riding around on a 200cc bike. If you Mr. qwerty don't understand that then you must have been living in a cave all ur life!