weapons on a bike?

[Johnj]

Zagnut, I heard of a kid who rolled a tire, mounted on a rim, down a hill onto a busy roadway, causing an accident and killing somebody. And I'm sure somebody, somewhere has used a fire extinguisher to knock somebody in the head.




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[Shorts]

I knew someone would bring up this arguement...

When was the last time a kid got a hold of a spare tire and killed himself or one of his friends with it?...When was the last time somebody accidentally killed his roomate with a fire extuinger because he thought his roomate was an intruder?

Not much risk associated with keeping a spare tire around, is there?

Like I said before it comes down to risk vs. reward.

I hear this argument as well - safety for kids shooting themselves. 1) Responsibility, 2) Education. Well my friend, it is the owner's RESPONSIBILITY and brains that say when there are kids around, and even if they are not, the firearms get unloaded, cleaned and put away in a safe. If not in a safe, then not available at all to kids when they play. That's really common sense. If you don't have enough of that to keep YOUR firearm out of children's hands, you're right, you shouldn't have a firearm - YOU are not responsible enough.

If you have random kids walking in and out of your house, there's your second problem.

Third, you need to be EDUCATED enough on your children, your gun and all 4 Rules at the least, that you know when is the proper age to introduce your child to firearms. Again, maturity plays a big part as well as the child's personality. When to introduce them to your kids is a personal judgement call. But they should be taught the 4 Rules, and if this is a family activity, you better also teach them handling and shooting.


Education and training, for everything firearm, to minimize risk. You can't just ignore them or run from them like they don't exist. Kinda like motorcycles. Oh wait, but they don't kill kids though, right?

[qwerty]

Its not just Indianapolis. I view any major city as a place better to carry than not. Indy's main problem as far as crime areas and safer areas is that they are mixed up. You can be in a really nice neighborhood and travel less than 2 miles in any direction and be in middle of the "hood".

Just like in Dallas/ Ft. Worth where I live...and I've never needed to carry.
I find it "hilarious" that people aren't afraid of riding without a helmet, yet they are too scared to go outside their home unless they have a hand cannon strapped to them

Come to the North Side most any night. It's so peaceful you can fall asleep to the sound of gunshots.

Most people who carry do so because they are weak. I used to have to drop receipts from where I worked. After being robbed at gunpoint three times and being shot and left for dead once, I decided the next time I was fighting back. I had my military training and experience to fall back on so I had no trouble demonstrating competence with my chosen weapon.

I've had two occasions to draw and fire in civilian life, and neither time did I have to do anything more than give a statement explaining the dead people. My weapon was not even confiscated.

When my daughter was 12 she was home alone when someone tried to break in. She called 911 before he was even in the house. She opened the gun safe, grabbed a 12-gauge, and shoved it fyll of 3-inch OO. Once he came in, she warned him that she was armed and would shoot. He laughed at her and began undoing his pants. He took a single load of OO in the chest and fell back out the window he came in. This happened at 3:35 in the afternoon, in broad daylight, in a sleepy little town in Tennessee.

Wherever you go, there are criminals. The reason is not the number of guns. The reasons are lack of meaningful consequences and programs that abrogate personal responsibility.

[Apollofrost]

man, how was she after that?

[qwerty]

She had no problem. First, she was not raised to be a drama queen. Second, death was not new to her by then. We named her steer Hamburger and her hog Pork Chop. Her first chickens were named Fried, Chow Mein, and Noodle Soup. She had been hunting, fishing, and trapping since she was 4 years old. She raised rabbits and killed them humanely to feed her pet python. She often fed live bait to lionfish. The year before the shooting she had close friends die: one from cancer, one from a car wreck, one from abuse, one tried to run across a railroad track in front of a train. She watched her older brother die when he was run over by a car just a couple months before.

When the police arrived she was still sitting on the stair landing with the shotgun. When she saw the police lights in front of the house, she told the dispatcher on the phone she was unloading the shotgun and putting it and the shells back in the gun safe. Then she heard a friend's father calling from the yard so she answered him by name and asked if it was safe for her to come out. Today, she is a happy, well-adjusted 20-something with a family of her own.

Turns out the perp had just finished a stint in prison for statutory rape, and was suspected in a recent string of rapes of middle school and high school girls across west Tennessee and Kentucky.

[Apollofrost]

Glad to hear that she was fine, creeps like that deserve both barrels.

[Shorts]

Dang Q, you raised a strong girl. A fine example of proper education.

[logitech104]

Too bad they updated the wikipedia article because the last version had a link to these guys who shot a traditionally forged sword(well, neo traditional) with a .50cal machine gun and a 9mm, it withstood about seven shots in the same place, edge on, from the .50cal

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/viral-videos/links/2693 9mm see this one first.
http://www.fanpop.com/external/2652 .50cal
the videos are really dramatic. although I can see why
uhhh, the dating ad's on the side of the page might be NSFW. [fyi]

[qwerty]

Dang Q, you raised a strong girl. A fine example of proper education.

Well, she started gymnastics and martial arts when she was 4. When she was 12 she was a cheerleader, complete with blonde. 18 months later, after 4 hours/day in the gym, she made the varsity football team as a 9th grader. Her goal was to average breaking one opponent's bone per game with clean hits. She missed by one game.

[Johnj]

Her goal was to average breaking one opponent's bone per game with clean hits.

Her goal is to hurt somebody. Maybe cripple somebody? Does her coach know this?