Problem Shifting!!!

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Fast Eddy B · Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:37 am

I've never tried going from sixth to first while stopped, so I can't tell you about that on the CBR. But it will hang in gear while stopped, especially if it's third or fourth.

While moving, I've never had a missed shift while 'block shifting' from third or fourth at a light. So it may be a synchroniser issue? Clutch? FIIK?

Sev · #12 Unread post by **Sev** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:26 am

It's because of the gearbox design. Basically the gears need to be spinning (input and output shaft) in order to make a shift most of the time. This basically means you want the back wheel spinning. The reason easing the clutch out slightly will work is because it transfers a small amount of power to the gears and turns the output shaft a little allowing the gear dogs to realign and hopefully allow you to complete the shift.

Really you're better off being in first before you stop. In normal stopping just work your way down through the gears. In emergency stopping you should have the clutch in and click down as many times as you can while braking.

MAKER · #13 Unread post by **MAKER** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:20 pm

i had something like that-

if you stop adn are not in 1st, and go to shift and it doesn't move, move the bike a little with your feet and release the clucth slighty and reengage it- the gears aren't lining up. this is common.

MotoF150 · #14 Unread post by **MotoF150** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:40 am

don't listen to those guys! You need a new clutch and clutch basket! AND after that, protect ur new clutch by using Amsoil!

KingRobb · #15 Unread post by **KingRobb** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:33 am

Thats right you should never listen to the other guys on this site....

they collectively know what they are talkin about. MOTO is the only one, who will consistently steer you wrong...and that is the path you want. isn't it?

cybermaxx12 · Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:24 am

Thank you guys for all of your help. Yeah it was just that I wasn't shifting down right while slowing down. I was slowing way down then trying to shift all at once but now Ive corrected the problem and things are running smoothly.

cybermaxx

shane-o · #17 Unread post by **shane-o** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:49 pm

Sevulturus wrote:It's because of the gearbox design. Basically the gears need to be spinning (input and output shaft) in order to make a shift most of the time. This basically means you want the back wheel spinning. The reason easing the clutch out slightly will work is because it transfers a small amount of power to the gears and turns the output shaft a little allowing the gear dogs to realign and hopefully allow you to complete the shift.

Really you're better off being in first before you stop. In normal stopping just work your way down through the gears. In emergency stopping you should have the clutch in and click down as many times as you can while braking.

agree

oops did i jus type that

Moving down through the gears to wash off speed in order to stop is the most usefull technique. You command much better control over the bike, better rpm in case ya need it, improved braking and handling, safer, and most of all if ya kool like me and blip the throttle each time... the chicks go wild

true

MotoF150 · Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:37 pm

You guys have " NO IDEA " and " NO CLUE " how a clutch works on a Honda Crotch Rocket Bike! You guys think the clutch is the same and works the same as ur generic japanese cruiser bike! Its a two stage clutch! and everything has to work perfect! The problem is in between the metal pressure plate and the basket, both are worn out! I know cause I once owned a 98 F3.

lunchmeat · Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:16 am

Don't take the bait.

Sev · #20 Unread post by **Sev** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:04 am

MotoF150 wrote:You guys have " NO IDEA " and " NO CLUE " how a clutch works on a Honda Crotch Rocket Bike! You guys think the clutch is the same and works the same as ur generic japanese cruiser bike! Its a two stage clutch! and everything has to work perfect! The problem is in between the metal pressure plate and the basket, both are worn out! I know cause I once owned a 98 F3.

The issue here isn't the clutch, it's the gear dogs.

For those of us that aren't as smart as you, which part makes this a two stage clutch?? And then how this is different from a "japanese crap" cruiser clutch.

One of these is a cruiser, one of this is an F3 engine. What's the difference?