4u2nv wrote:and yea, who doesnt get a bike to be cool for some reason or another, ther attention getters....as well a gas savers, like i stated in my original thread
Ok, but you don't think this bike makes people look cool?
or this one?
both are absolutely gorgeous bikes. I get compliments on my SV all the time, and the same for when I had a Ninja 650. And trust me, girls love em
And both are much more docile machines than a gixxer. Oh and both are actual gas savers. a gixxer 750 gets mileage in the 30mpg range. These two bikes get 55mpg.
I'll answer that for you, because you wanna look cool and impress people.
I hate this response so f'ing much (nevermind that you know NOTHING about the guy personally, or whats in his head). What is wrong with buying a bike based on aesthetic value? And how do you even know thats WHY he wants a GSXR? He could want one because well, they speak to him and hes looked at more than a few. And if he wants a bike that gets him around AND looks good on the eyes and attracts attention - so what. The two requirements are mutually exclusive.
Having said that, go with the guy above. Go sit on a SV650S if you want a sportsbike, and sit on the SV650 while you're at it.
But if you're dead set on a GSXR (and youve looked at insurance and practicality of said bike for an all-purpose bike); then get it. You may flub, and you may not. . .common sense is just as vital as experience - thats not a motorcycle thing. . .thats an ANYTHING thing. . .just recognize that a bike on that level carries with it a steeper learning curve than something else tailored not for the track. Sure you been on the Katana a "couple" times (eep!) - but ask yourself, is that REALLY enough time to gauge what kind of bike you're ready for? If you answer is yes well. . this is America - cowboy up and drop your dimes on the GSXR!
Race replicas are built to be raced by a bunch of scrawny 130 lbs. 5 foot 7 in. racers. Bigger guys just can't compete in the MotoGP world.
With that said, they make rearsets that RAISES the footpegs up and back so that Race Replica bikes increases the lean angle. I was unable to find any that actually LOWERS the pegs in order to accomodate someone your size. The bike is usually raised through the fork adjustment etc. which still cramps the rider when the bike is moving.
I must admit, when I was early to mid 20s, my heart was set on a sportbike. Two things discouraged me - insurance and funds to purchase a new one. I didn't want a used beater (which btw, typically are if they're used). Looking back, I'm glad the insurance was/is high. I would have burdened myself with so much debt, I wouldn't have been able to afford real assets like my house. And that's the best case. I love financial independence at 30.
2003 VN1500P Kawasaki Mean Streak
2009 Yamaha Nytro FX
I'll answer that for you, because you wanna look cool and impress people.
I hate this response so f'ing much (nevermind that you know NOTHING about the guy personally, or whats in his head). What is wrong with buying a bike based on aesthetic value? And how do you even know thats WHY he wants a GSXR? He could want one because well, they speak to him and hes looked at more than a few. And if he wants a bike that gets him around AND looks good on the eyes and attracts attention - so what. The two requirements are mutually exclusive.
Having said that, go with the guy above. Go sit on a SV650S if you want a sportsbike, and sit on the SV650 while you're at it.
But if you're dead set on a GSXR (and youve looked at insurance and practicality of said bike for an all-purpose bike); then get it. You may flub, and you may not. . .common sense is just as vital as experience - thats not a motorcycle thing. . .thats an ANYTHING thing. . .just recognize that a bike on that level carries with it a steeper learning curve than something else tailored not for the track. Sure you been on the Katana a "couple" times (eep!) - but ask yourself, is that REALLY enough time to gauge what kind of bike you're ready for? If you answer is yes well. . this is America - cowboy up and drop your dimes on the GSXR!
I was going to star with a 600 myself, until I've read the post from the other posters. Have any of the dealers told you that you can start on a 600? I've tried the 600's and they feel really comfortable for me, but I would prefer the 200cc (I know I can start with the 500cc bikes, but I want to start with the 200's) because as most of these guys have told (or haven't told you) that the 200cc-500cc bikes are forgiving and you can make as many mistakes you can on those bikes. You can also easily sell it too when you get tired of your beginning bike. Speaking of which, you can always get the 600cc bike that you want, and if they stop making the bike you want, you can always find the bike you're looking for (new or used), they're really easy to find!
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ANDS! wrote:But if you're dead set on a GSXR <edit> well. . this is America - cowboy up and drop your dimes on the GSXR!
I have to agree with ANDS!...with a nod to the common sense of everyone advocating a smaller bike. Absolutely, a smaller bike will be safer and easier to learn on. And a Toyota Prius will be more economical and ecologically sound than many other cars out there...does everyone do what makes sense? No.
You want the rocket-bike? Get the rocket-bike. Take Zen Yoga classes to master absolute control over your right wrist. Exercise common sense when riding -- even if not when buying. Heck-sticks, I'd like to step up from my ancient 650 standard to a shiny new ZX-14. Sensible? Gosh, I hope not!
1979 XS650F -- "Hi, My name's Nick, and I'm a Motorcyclist. I've been dry for four years." (Everybody: "Hi, Nick.")
I have an SV650 right now. It has the "same" displacement as the ZX-6R, but has 30 more HP. Before the SV650 I had a VFR500 and it had 70 or so HP as well. The bike can move, and I can't imagine what kind of power the ZX6R has. I think THAT in and of itself is why folks might be telling you to ease up, but again - its not just know-how that makes someone a good rider. I'm sure seasoned vets have let these bikes get away from them because of their irresponsibility and not respecting the power of the machine. Obviously, on a 100+ HP bike, the learning curve is going to be significantly steeper, but its not impossible. If you hop on it, jerk it up to 5th gear and rev it up to damn near redline limit - then yes, you deserve to bin and wreck your bike.
If you REALLY want the ZX6R - get it. A better choice might be the EX500 if you really want a sportish bike (obviously they are different styles).
My #1 question would be, is there any reason you want a ZX6R?
200CC - sure. But there are better bikes out there that arent death-traps either. And I'm sorry but 200CC or 600CC - either can "F" you up; ones not magically "safer" than the other. If you are willing to exercise self-control, and take the gears one at a time, and actually devote your time to LEARNING the bike, instead of trying to jump from 1st to 6th. . .go for it.
Shorts wrote:Simple idea - newbs have no business learning on a GSXR750. And I reiterate, "learning". Start off on a tamer bike, like a Suzuki GS500F.
Like you said, you're "still wet behind the ears" as far as this stuff goes, and youy've got more experience folks giving you information. Do not make the mistake of shirking it off because you only want a big GSXR now!
All in good time man, you'll get the bike you want. But the key is to learn how to ride well. You want to find the limits of your bike, not the limits of your skill. Finding the limits of your skill will get you into trouble, even when you're not looking.
Anyway, what's your experience? Are you licensed? How old are you? Have you called around for insurance quotes? Are you goingto finance a brand new bike?
experience is i have ridden a couple of times on a katana through a subdivision, I was licensed in my state (motorcycle license) but its now out of date as i joined the army and never updated it, age-22, insurance is 122/month with liab (my dad owns a body shop, theirs no need to get full as well as if i drop a 600 its more than likely going to be totalled)....i will be financing a used bike....im not a newb to planning out and buying a vehicle, but thanks for the helpful questions....i have a accident and a reckless on my past thats why my insurance is pretty high...
Wow, I do not know where you live, but in Colorado my insurance would be sky high if I had a wreckless driving offense. I recieved a Careless driving a long time ago when I was in high school, and my insurance rocketed! Being 22, wreckless driving and an accident, your GSXR insurance quote would not even be pretty for liability only! Motor insurance is the most expensive for the GSX, even more than the ZX6R, CBR600s, and the R6's!!
On my trip this last week with -Holiday, we came across two guys pushing a sportbike by the side of the road and stopped to help. (Well, -Holiday helped. By the time I was disconnected from my camera, etc, they were pretty much done). Turns out a kid on the CBR (neither of the two guys pushing it) had wrecked on this straight line road in the middle of nowhere in Vermont. What was the cause? A dip in the road. He hit it, it jerked the throttle - he did an unexpected wheelie which then sent him in a series of flips.
The kid who wrecked wasn't pushing the bike because he's still in ICU.
The reason people say don't get a race replica is because:
1) Very easy to make a very simple mistake (see story above) that will result in Very Bad Things for your body (if you survive).
2) Your learning curve will be MUCH longer. A person of equal skill who starts on a ninja 250 will likely be able to ride in circles around you while you're still learning how to properly control your bike.
As others have said - you don't need anyone's permission here, though. Do what you want.
