250cc Please?

[xornr89]

It's xornr89 again!

My friend is looking for a nice bike, not a ninja 250R or a Zuki GS500R... (I really don't know why?!) Well, he kinda likes the brand Yamaha or a Honda... Can anyone please help him out on this one? Ohh yehs, by the way he needs a 250cc or less, cause of the Learner's restrictions here in Australia!

Thanks in advance

[Shorts]

Honda VTR250 (I ride this one)
Honda CBR250R or RR
Honda Hornet 250


Suzuki Bandit 250

Yamaha TW200
Yamaha Zeal 250

[Fast Eddy B]

Try this!

[DivideOverflow]

Try this!

That is a terrible suggestion. No one's first streetbike should be a two-stroke. Even if it is a 250, that bike makes 60bhp...
It even says in the article: "The RS250 is ideally something to buy to put in the garage and stay there except for track days"

I'll just assume you are kidding.

Go with one of the bikes shorts listed.
You can also look at the Hyosung GT250/GT250R.

[Fast Eddy B]

Try this!

That is a terrible suggestion.
I'll just assume you are kidding.

He asked for a 250!



F-Ya!

[xornr89]

Honda VTR250 (I ride this one)
Honda CBR250R or RR
Honda Hornet 250
Suzuki Bandit 250
Yamaha TW200
Yamaha Zeal 250

THanks for the list, i will look in to it! Thanks again!

[Shorts]

Honda VTR250 (I ride this one)
Honda CBR250R or RR
Honda Hornet 250
Suzuki Bandit 250
Yamaha TW200
Yamaha Zeal 250

THanks for the list, i will look in to it! Thanks again!

No problem. As DivideOverflow noted I did keep 2 strokes off the list. The reason behind that is a first bike should be cheap and easy to maintain so that riding and reliability can remain a top function as opposed to working on it. Disclaimer: I am NOT saying 2 strokes are difficult to maintain. I am NOT saying 2 strokes are unreliable. Rather am taking the 2 stroke maintenance out of the equation for the first bike. With a 4 stroke, regular maintenance items must be up kept so one is not losing the benefit of 'learning to work on' their first bike.

It's simply, keeping it simple this first go 'round.

[xornr89]

Honda VTR250 (I ride this one)
Honda CBR250R or RR
Honda Hornet 250
Suzuki Bandit 250
Yamaha TW200
Yamaha Zeal 250

THanks for the list, i will look in to it! Thanks again!

No problem. As DivideOverflow noted I did keep 2 strokes off the list. The reason behind that is a first bike should be cheap and easy to maintain so that riding and reliability can remain a top function as opposed to working on it. Disclaimer: I am NOT saying 2 strokes are difficult to maintain. I am NOT saying 2 strokes are unreliable. Rather am taking the 2 stroke maintenance out of the equation for the first bike. With a 4 stroke, regular maintenance items must be up kept so one is not losing the benefit of 'learning to work on' their first bike.

It's simply, keeping it simple this first go 'round.

Thanks again! Sorry i am not familiar with the term Strokes (I have posted about STROKES before), So the lower the strokes the better, faster, easier to maintain? Can you please help me understand this stroke thingo? By the way not the medical Stroke... I know what that is... LOL

[DivideOverflow]

Honda VTR250 (I ride this one)
Honda CBR250R or RR
Honda Hornet 250
Suzuki Bandit 250
Yamaha TW200
Yamaha Zeal 250

THanks for the list, i will look in to it! Thanks again!

No problem. As DivideOverflow noted I did keep 2 strokes off the list. The reason behind that is a first bike should be cheap and easy to maintain so that riding and reliability can remain a top function as opposed to working on it. Disclaimer: I am NOT saying 2 strokes are difficult to maintain. I am NOT saying 2 strokes are unreliable. Rather am taking the 2 stroke maintenance out of the equation for the first bike. With a 4 stroke, regular maintenance items must be up kept so one is not losing the benefit of 'learning to work on' their first bike.

It's simply, keeping it simple this first go 'round.

Thanks again! Sorry i am not familiar with the term Strokes (I have posted about STROKES before), So the lower the strokes the better, faster, easier to maintain? Can you please help me understand this stroke thingo? By the way not the medical Stroke... I know what that is... LOL

When referring to engines, the number of strokes are the number of cycles an engine goes through to make power. Two-stroke engines fire once every revolution, while four-stroke engines fire once every other revolution. This gives two-stroke engines a significant power boost.

Disadvantages:
Two-stroke engines don't last nearly as long as four-stroke engines. The lack of a dedicated lubrication system means that the parts of a two-stroke engine wear a lot faster. (You have to mix the oil in with the gas, unlike a 4 stroke).

Two-stroke oil is expensive, and you need about 4 ounces of it per gallon of gas. You would burn about a gallon of oil every 1,000 miles if you used a two-stroke engine in a car.

Two-stroke engines do not use fuel efficiently, so you would get fewer miles per gallon.

Two-stroke engines produce a lot of pollution -- so much, in fact, that it is likely that you won't see them around too much longer.
The pollution comes from two sources. The first is the combustion of the oil. The oil makes all two-stroke engines smoky to some extent, and a badly worn two-stroke engine can emit huge clouds of oily smoke.

For motorcycles, two-strokes also have a very small powerband. They only make power within a small RPM range. So you would be accelerating, and all of a sudden (once you hit that RPM range) the bike would surge violently in power, perhaps taking you by surprise if you aren't expecting it.

Two-strokes are good for race bikes, not beginner bikes.

[Wrider]

Just the other day in school we were going over two strokes... In 1991, Honda made a 500cc Parallel Twin 2-Stroke race bike. The racers who rode it were actually scared of it. Why? Over 300 HP. Even the Hayabusa, at 1349 ccs (2008 model) makes a claimed 198 HP, because it's a 4-Stroke... That's the difference... lol
Wrider