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wmg1299 · #11 Unread post by **wmg1299** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:31 pm

Seems a little too harsh for me. I hate when sport bike riders do that stuff, but normal reckless driving penalties and fines should suffice. If these penalties aren't enough, then increase them for all drivers.

Kibagari · #12 Unread post by **Kibagari** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:42 am

I agree with you 100%, Blues. Oh, hi everyone. Long time, no see.

At any rate, if everyone who rode wore full leathers, did (approximately) the speed limit, and didn't stunt on public roads endangering not ONLY themselves but others around them, perhaps lawmakers would look at the motorcycle community a bit differently.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw a cager drive HORRIBLY and get away with it, I'd be richer than Bill Gates. A level playing field would be awesome, and perhaps once they start getting slammed with moving violations, people will smarten up about what they're doing behind the wheel.

Unfortunately, I think that's a bit unrealistic. While coming down hard on cagers would probably be worthwhile monetarily, cagers aren't the enemy in this case- squids are. If everyone else rides safely and just to ride, and the stunters and idiots keep doing what they're doing, then maybe we can finally say "Hey, look, it's not us, it's these morons."

I'd be happy to see one less t-shirt wearing, rice-rocket riding squid off the street.

That reminds me, Massachusetts legislators are proposing a hand-held cell phone ban for when you're driving (Connecticut has had that in place for a while now). I hope to hell it passes. Not that it'll change much, but the people that DO abide by it... that'll keep riders just a bit safer.

toolbox · #13 Unread post by **toolbox** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:56 am

i think that law is a bit excessive. i'm mostly a harley rider but ride all bikes, and i can say its not just the sport bikes that break the speed limits. in indianapolis i was clocked at 125 on my fxdwg in a 55. ya, i was wrong in making that choice but im sure glad that law was not in effect. if it was,i'd still be walking. just my 2 cents....

racejunky · Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:11 pm

I believe that the people that do the wheelies on the highway are the same personality type as the people that fly up and down the highway street racing with the general public. It's the look at me I'm "bad" mentality, when in reality they're a bunch of punks. If you are really as "bad" as you think you are then do that sort of thing where it belongs, not on a public road. At least then your actually competing, and will find out just how "good" you really are. No one on the highway is competing with you and if they are they're no smarter than you. Now mind you I don't think the posted speed limit is always fair and should be obeyed because it's the law. There are bad laws. But if you drive a reasonable speed for the conditions that should be taken into account. And traffic is part of the conditions. I'll get off my soap box now. Joe

jonnythan · Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:53 am

Gummiente wrote:Here in Ontari-ari-o, they recently passed a law that gives the police authourity to impound ANY vehicle caught doing 50kmh+ over the posted speed limit in ANY area.

That's really, really awesome.

The Florida legislation is awesome too.

x0054 · #16 Unread post by **x0054** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:34 pm

Stupid law, probably will pass, but a bad idea. I never seen anyone do a wheelie on a public streets with people around. And, I never seen someone clocking past a 100 on anything but utterly empty freeway at night.

So, the law should be subject to the totality of the circumstances. If the rider is the only one, or one of a group of riders for miles on the road, it should be a simple fine. If the rider is going 160 in a 35MPH zone amongst mid day traffic, ok, maybe then you do something more.

Danger posed to people around should be the measuring stick, not the speed it's self.

- Bogdan

ofblong · #17 Unread post by **ofblong** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:51 pm

Kibagari wrote:I agree with you 100%, Blues. Oh, hi everyone. Long time, no see.

At any rate, if everyone who rode wore full leathers, did (approximately) the speed limit, and didn't stunt on public roads endangering not ONLY themselves but others around them, perhaps lawmakers would look at the motorcycle community a bit differently.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw a cager drive HORRIBLY and get away with it, I'd be richer than Bill Gates. A level playing field would be awesome, and perhaps once they start getting slammed with moving violations, people will smarten up about what they're doing behind the wheel.

Unfortunately, I think that's a bit unrealistic. While coming down hard on cagers would probably be worthwhile monetarily, cagers aren't the enemy in this case- squids are. If everyone else rides safely and just to ride, and the stunters and idiots keep doing what they're doing, then maybe we can finally say "Hey, look, it's not us, it's these morons."

I'd be happy to see one less t-shirt wearing, rice-rocket riding squid off the street.

That reminds me, Massachusetts legislators are proposing a hand-held cell phone ban for when you're driving (Connecticut has had that in place for a while now). I hope to hell it passes. Not that it'll change much, but the people that DO abide by it... that'll keep riders just a bit safer.

yeah they may ban hand held cell phones but the morons are still gonna use those gay blue-tooth ear sets that will still be a distraction because instead of 2 ears to listen to your surroundings (remember your surrounds are both sight and sound) with you now only have 1 (unless your def in one ear then you wont have any)

desper · #18 Unread post by **desper** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:52 am

x0054 wrote:Stupid law, probably will pass, but a bad idea. I never seen anyone do a wheelie on a public streets with people around. And, I never seen someone clocking past a 100 on anything but utterly empty freeway at night.

So, the law should be subject to the totality of the circumstances. If the rider is the only one, or one of a group of riders for miles on the road, it should be a simple fine. If the rider is going 160 in a 35MPH zone amongst mid day traffic, ok, maybe then you do something more.

Danger posed to people around should be the measuring stick, not the speed it's self.

- Bogdan

Thats just it, these sorts of laws are good in a way because it gives cops more power in an EXTREME situation, thus making the roads more safe for the rest of us. But it takes a cop that is FAIR, and makes a good judgment as to when someone was really being reckless and risking anyone's safety. I've met cops that won't give a speeding ticket to someone unless they were also weaving through traffic, or generally being an "O Ring". The problem is, once they have the power they can, technically, give you the works and impound your bike for 'speeding safely' just because they are no funs or their wife just left them or whatever.

Cooler · #19 Unread post by **Cooler** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:59 pm

x0054 wrote: If the rider is the only one, or one of a group of riders for miles on the road, it should be a simple fine.

x0,

Given a long straight country road, with no side turns and no one around and good visibility, even the most responsible riders among us will be tempted to tweek the throttle.

Tell me I'm wrong?

e.

ofblong · #20 Unread post by **ofblong** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:58 pm

Cooler wrote:
x0054 wrote: If the rider is the only one, or one of a group of riders for miles on the road, it should be a simple fine.
x0,

Given a long straight country road, with no side turns and no one around and good visibility, even the most responsible riders among us will be tempted to tweek the throttle.

Tell me I'm wrong?

e.

I would never think about twitching the throttle.....